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Richer by the Dozen - Bill and Pam Mutz

June 10, 2025
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On today's FamilyLife Today episode, hosted by Dave and Ann Wilson, we continue the conversation with Bill and Pam Mutz, parents of 12 and grandparents to 37, focusing on their experiences with loss and God’s redemptive power. The episode delves into the tragic drowning of their 7-month-old son, Jonathan, at age 26, and the loss of their granddaughter, Gracie, due to their daughter Carrie’s preeclampsia. Pam recounts the guilt and blame she faced after Jonathan’s accident, emphasizing Bill’s immediate forgiveness as a pivotal act of grace. The couple shares how God’s sovereignty and preparation sustained them, highlighting moments like a premonitory dream and scripture readings. They discuss avoiding fairness in parenting to reduce entitlement and the importance of looking forward to God’s purpose rather than dwelling on past pain. The episode underscores the theme of trusting God through grief, with Bill and Pam’s faith and forgiveness strengthening their marriage and ministry.

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About FamilyLife Today®

FamilyLife Today® is an award-winning podcast featuring fun, engaging conversations that help families grow together with Jesus while pursuing the relationships that matter most. Hosted by Dave and Ann Wilson, new episodes air every Tuesday and Thursday.

About Dave and Ann Wilson

Dave and Ann Wilson are co-hosts of FamilyLife Today©, FamilyLife’s nationally-syndicated radio program.

Dave and Ann have been married for more than 40 years and have spent the last 35 teaching and mentoring couples and parents across the country. They have been featured speakers at FamilyLife’s Weekend to Remember® since 1993, and have also hosted their own marriage conferences across the country.

Dave and Ann helped plant Kensington Community Church in Detroit, Michigan where they served together in ministry for more than three decades, wrapping up their time at Kensington in 2020.

The Wilsons are the creative force behind DVD teaching series Rock Your Marriage and The Survival Guide To Parenting, as well as authors of the recently released books Vertical Marriage (Zondervan, 2019) and No Perfect Parents (Zondervan, 2021).

Dave is a graduate of the International School of Theology, where he received a Master of Divinity degree. A Ball State University Hall of Fame Quarterback, Dave served the Detroit Lions as Chaplain for thirty-three years. Ann attended the University of Kentucky. She has been active with Dave in ministry as a speaker, writer, small group leader, and mentor to countless women.

The Wilsons live in the Detroit area. They have three grown sons, CJ, Austin, and Cody, three daughters-in-law, and a growing number of grandchildren.

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