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For a man who was a convicted sex offender and shady financier, Jeffrey Epstein sure had tight connections with many of the world's rich, famous, and powerful, like former President Bill Clinton, billionaire Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and the King of England's brother, Prince Andrew, to name just a few. Jeffrey Epstein is known for owning Little St. James, a small private island in the US Virgin Islands directly to the east of Puerto Rico, to which he would fly in rich and powerful men to engage in sexual immorality with underage girls. Now, through the recent release of the massive Epstein files, the world is finding out that the iniquity taking place there and other places owned by Epstein was unspeakably depraved. Here is just one of his victims along with her attorney.

Teala Davies: I was only 17. I was the perfect victim. I was on my own and I needed help. Jeffrey Epstein prayed upon me. He put me in a vulnerable and dependent situation and took advantage of me.

Guest (Male): The photo is of Jeffrey Epstein and Teala Davies. It is Teala's first time on a helicopter. They are flying over the United States Virgin Islands. She is smiling because she did not yet realize that he had a predatory plan for her. Ultimately, he raped and sexually assaulted her frequently, including by trafficking Teala to his homes in New York, New Mexico, Florida, the Virgin Islands, and France. He treated her like an object for his sexual gratification.

David Wheaton: But there is far more to this sordid affair of Jeffrey Epstein than egregious sexual sin that pulls back the curtain on the world's elite in their mission for mankind. Columnist Andrew Muller writes, "The files confirm that Jeffrey Epstein was far more than a playboy blackmailer. He did traffic underage children. He lured politicians, businessmen, and academics to his island to commit debauchery. He did possess leverage on elites. But he was also at the heart of the insiders' operation in a big way, serving as an advisor, confidant, networker, and consultant for outfits that exist to destroy Americanism and usher in a global gulag."

Did you know that Jeffrey Epstein was on the globalist Trilateral Commission, that he was closely associated with the Rothschilds banking family, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, and some of the top institutions of higher education in our country, and was on the front lines of transhumanism, genetic engineering, and eugenics? In short, Epstein was closely connected to the deep-state cabal that seeks to rule and enslave the world in their rebellion against God.

Now, one might think that with Jeffrey Epstein's death in a New York jail cell in 2019, that his dastardly life and legacy would fade from memory. But the opposite is happening. Calls for transparency and justice are only growing. Alex Newman, author and award-winning international journalist and founder of Liberty Sentinel Media, joins us today to explain why the Jeffrey Epstein scandal is about far more than salacious secrets on a Caribbean island and what Christians need to discern in all of this. Let's get straight to the first segment of our interview with Alex Newman.

Alex, thank you for coming on The Christian Worldview Radio Program today. We're going to talk about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal and the many tentacles of that. But before we do, I wanted to just ask you about a couple current events. Just this week, President Trump gave his State of the Union address, and there was many things said in that speech. I think the thing that is getting the most attention is when he said this.

Donald Trump: The only thing standing between Americans and a wide-open border right now is President Donald J. Trump and our great Republican patriots in Congress. Thank you. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. It’s a shame. You should be ashamed of yourself, not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself.

David Wheaton: That was the sound bite of the whole speech because half of the room, the Democrats, didn't stand up as to the question of whether the role of the American government is to protect its own citizens over illegal immigrants. What did you make of the speech overall and that particular moment? What did that tell you about where we are as a country?

Alex Newman: Well, I thought that moment was really important to highlight kind of what we're dealing with here. There are obviously major problems with the Republican Party. There are plenty of good reasons why people refer to the folks in Congress as the Uniparty with a handful of exceptions. But what we have now is one of the major parties that doesn't even hide the fact that it wants open borders, that it promotes illegal immigration even at the expense of the citizens that these members of Congress are supposed to be representing. I think what it will show voters come midterms is that if the Democrats retake power—and there's a very real chance of that historically during midterm elections—then the border will probably be under threat once again.

President Trump will still be in the executive, so he'll still have the ability to keep the border locked down. But if they can defund our border agencies, which is actually what they're doing right now with the Department of Homeland Security, which does, by the way, oversee the border, they can wreak a lot of havoc there. I think what we can expect is a lot more of what we've seen, for example, in Minneapolis with the massive fraud that we've seen from the immigration. I was just down in Texas a few days ago. I found a 90-foot tall statue of Lord Hanuman, a pagan deity, a monkey god of some sort. I looked out my hotel window, just absolutely dominated by Muslims and women in hijabs.

The Democrat Party has made it an official policy position basically, and they just showed it by refusing to stand up there, that they want an open border. They want to import people from every kind of culture, every kind of false religion. They'll bring in Muslims and pagans and anybody else, even though they understand full well that it's all at the expense of the people they're supposed to be representing. So I think it's going to probably turn a lot of people off come the midterms.

David Wheaton: Alex, let me just play you one more sound bite from Trump's State of the Union address this past week where he talked about, I think, probably the most significant issue geopolitically right now with the potential war with Iran coming up. Here's what Donald Trump had to say.

Donald Trump: After Midnight Hammer, they were warned to make no future attempts to rebuild their weapons program, and in particular, nuclear weapons. Yet they continue starting it all over. We wiped it out and they want to start all over again. And at this moment, again pursuing their sinister ambitions. We are in negotiations with them. They want to make a deal, but we haven't heard those secret words: we will never have a nuclear weapon. My preference is to solve this problem through diplomacy. But one thing is certain: I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror, which they are by far, to have a nuclear weapon. Can't let that happen.

David Wheaton: This is a major deal with the potential war with Iran. We have no idea which direction this would go. There's been a huge military build-up in the region of the Middle East by the Americans now and so forth. This hasn't happened yet, but what are your thoughts about a potential war with Iran at this point?

Alex Newman: Well, David, unfortunately, I think it would go very badly for the United States. I don't think it would work out in the way that a lot of people around the President are telling him it would work out. He's being told, and I know this, by some of his advisors that it would be essentially an easy thing to do. We're just going to get in, we'll slap them around a little bit, almost like Maduro. It'll be a nice big victory, everybody will think you're very tough and how great the United States is. I don't think it will be that simple. The Iranians have capabilities that I think are still a mystery even to the highly advanced intelligence agencies that we have.

We know that they have very close allies in Russia, in the Kremlin. We know that they have very close allies in Beijing. Iran is not Iraq. Iran is significantly larger, a significantly greater foe. One of the things that happens when foreign governments attack is it tends to rally the population behind the government, even if it's a bad government that people wouldn't normally support, which the Iranian regime certainly falls under that category. When your country is attacked, everybody rallies around that government. So I think there's the possibility for this going in a very negative direction.

Donald Trump repeatedly promised not to get us in more foreign interventions, more foreign wars. That was one of his big promises to voters and it looks to me like we're very close now to the possibility of a major conflagration kicking off. I guarantee you the folks in Beijing, the folks in Moscow are looking at this and thinking, "Oh, that would be wonderful. We maybe could take Taiwan. We could maybe finish obliterating Ukraine." This, I think, would very rapidly escalate into a global conflagration. With the United States tied up in Iran, it would be, I think, a dumpster fire, to use a colloquial term.

The Iranians have a lot of missiles. The Iranians may even have nuclear weapons, which obviously I don't think is a good idea for them to have nuclear weapons. They've repeatedly made clear their desire to wipe the Israelis off the map. And of course, the United States is the big Satan, Israel's the little Satan. So some of those could be aimed at us. They have capabilities domestically here. We've had the border wide open for four years at least. They've got operatives all across this country. And they don't need to hit our ships with every missile. Even if only half of 1% hit, they could absolutely debilitate the US Navy. So I don't think this is a wise trajectory. I don't think it's in line with what Trump campaigned on. I would just hope that cooler heads would prevail in Washington, DC.

David Wheaton: Yes, so do I. I of course feel terribly for the Iranian people. I guess nearly 40,000 of them have been killed at this point in protests against the government. But again, this is history-changing. Something like this, for the reasons you just mentioned, could go sideways very quickly. So we need to be in prayer for our leaders at this point that, like you said, there can be some sort of other resolution besides getting our country into a major war like this.

Alex Newman is our guest today here on The Christian Worldview. We're going to now talk about the topic for which we asked you to come on the program, Alex, and it's about the whole Jeffrey Epstein scandal. In just preparation for the program, this goes down ratholes that you can't even believe how deep they are and you've reported extensively on this. I'm just going to read a paragraph or two of one of your recent columns.

You said, "It may be one of the biggest scandals in human history. The Department of Justice's massive release of over 3 million files on child sex trafficker and deep-state fixer Jeffrey Epstein reveals jaw-dropping connections between Epstein and the globalist Trilateral Commission, the Rothschilds banking dynasty, the Council on Foreign Relations, Bill Gates, the origins of cryptocurrency, and more. Not only did Epstein traffic underage children—most people know that side of the story—but he also served as a consultant, advisor, and friend to some of the most powerful organizations, politicians, and banks in the world. In fact, the emails strongly suggest that many so-called 'debunked' conspiracy theories, such as Pizzagate, are not theories at all but facts. This release provides the greatest single opportunity to hold criminals in the deep state accountable, but the Department of Justice and Congress must act."

That's quite a couple paragraphs about this Jeffrey Epstein scandal, Alex. Why is this story so massively important beyond just the salaciousness of the sexual accusations?

Alex Newman: Well, David, there's a lot of different angles here that I think are really important, but I'll start by reiterating what you just read from one of my recent pieces. I do believe this is one of the biggest scandals in the history of humanity and it gives us, I think, the clearest window other than the Holy Scriptures that we have seen so far into how the world is really run. The media, to the extent that they're talking about this at all, have been focusing on the child abuse and the involvement of some prominent people, and those issues are very important. They must be dealt with.

But more than that, this massive document dump—and the estimates say we've only got about half of the documents so far. I would like to see the rest of the documents as required by law—certainly not the graphic details, but at least the communications and things like that that we need to be aware of. But what you find when you read through these is just very clear insight into how the world really works. You literally have some of the most powerful people on the planet openly communicating with a child sex trafficker. You have references to demonic horror that is so abominable you can't even talk about it publicly.

Ephesians 5:11 has always been my motto as a journalist: "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them or reprove them." But then the very next verse says some of these things are so shameful, it's shameful even to speak of them. And that certainly applies here. We have repeated references to cannibalism, to just things that are so monstrous, the torture of children, that it defies comprehension. But for those of us who read our Bibles, for those of us who take seriously the Word of God, we already had some sense that this is how the world really works.

When the Apostle Paul describes Satan as the god of this world, when Satan offers Jesus all the kingdoms of the world in Matthew chapter 4, when 1 John chapter 5 says the whole world is in the power of the evil one, I think a lot of Christians today just kind of gloss over that. But we forget that the Bible is true. The Bible is the Word of God, and Satan is a real being. He is roaming like a lion, seeking whom he may devour. He's blinded the minds of them which believe not. And unfortunately, we see demonic influence at the highest levels of power.

So there is massive criminal activity here and we know that the role of civil government is to punish these exact kinds of crimes: crimes against children, crimes against populations. And so there's a lot of different strands here. I hope we'll get a chance to talk about one of the most disturbing ones. Once you get beyond the sex headlines and the child abuse headlines, there's a very clear pattern that's emerging here. Jeffrey Epstein was involved openly, by the way, once you read these documents, in transhumanism, genetic engineering. They were big believers in what they call "directed evolution."

They believe that they're going to be manipulating—and they're already working on this—manipulating the genetic code of human beings, other organisms on this planet, sometimes mixing and matching them. There's evidence that there was a forced breeding program involved here and it involves a lot of the most elite institutions in addition to a lot of the most powerful individuals. It's not just Bill Gates and Bill Clinton and these guys. We're talking about Harvard. We're talking about MIT. We're talking about Columbia University. We're talking about Arizona State University. Very prominent scientists. Once you see what these people were up to, you can never unsee it. So we have a historic opportunity here to expose this evil, to punish those who've been involved in this evil, and hopefully to protect people and children especially from these kinds of monstrous crimes in the future.

David Wheaton: Expose the deeds of darkness, advocate for punishment of the evildoers, and protect others from being drawn into situations like this. Christian international journalist Alex Newman of Liberty Sentinel Media is our guest today. He is going to explain further angles on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal that you typically won't hear from mainstream media outlets. We have links to Alex at thechristianworldview.org, or his direct website is libertysentinel.org. We are just getting started on the wide-reaching tentacles of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal and we'll be right back after this short break to tell you about some ministry resources. I'm David Wheaton and you are listening to The Christian Worldview Radio Program.

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David Wheaton: Welcome back to The Christian Worldview. I'm David Wheaton. Be sure to visit thechristianworldview.org where you can sign up for our weekly email and The Christian Worldview Journal print publication, order resources for adults and children, and support the ministry. Our topic today is why the Jeffrey Epstein scandal is about more than a salacious island. And our guest is international journalist Alex Newman, President of Liberty Sentinel Media.

I was looking online about these Epstein files being released, and I came across a video of a man who dug into them. Here's what he had to say, and then I'll follow up with a question.

Guest (Male): Well, I just made the biggest mistake, probably, that I've ever made in my life last night. Couldn't sleep, looked at the files, started with documents, moved on to video and my God. I have to stop because I can't unsee what I saw. I've watched, in my life, I've watched horror movies; not even close. Blood-curdling screams of young kids. The fear in these children. These people are the devil walking Earth. The devil is on Earth.

The idea that they've been unaliving children, cutting up intestines and eating them, unaliving babies, violating children.

David Wheaton: He just summarized what you've been saying, just about how demonic this is. It's beyond just sexual crimes. Sounds like there's been experiments and all different kinds of things that we won't even go into. The depravity of sinful man is so deep here. He used the term "unaliving children" instead of "killing children." Not sure why one would soften what was taking place, but just so our audience can know that how many of the elites around the world who is this impacting. We know Prince Andrew, the brother of the King of England, has been arrested over this. Bill Gates, the Clintons apparently were involved. And then you mentioned earlier that the whole so-called conspiracy theories around Pizzagate, the QAnon theory that the world is sort of run by pedophiles. Is this what these Epstein files are showing, and do you really think there will be accountability for these crimes? Because Epstein's been in the news for years now. Do you think this is going to come out that these theories were correct and will there be accountability, because it seems like there's been a lot of protectionism so far.

Alex Newman: Especially in the United States, it's very disappointing. We saw the Attorney General of the United States asked in Congress just recently how many people were being indicted, how many people were being investigated due to their involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. These files are public now. We can all see it. A lot of the names have been redacted, which in my opinion is a flagrant violation of the law. They were allowed to redact the names of the victims, not the perpetrators. But the answer had to do with the stock market and that is simply unacceptable.

We're talking here about horrific crimes involving very powerful people. We have started to see some fallout and some accountability over in Europe. I'm grateful for that. I don't even think we're touching the tip of the iceberg yet, but just recently the former Prime Minister of Norway, Thorbjørn Jagland, has now been charged with very serious crimes by Norwegian authorities. He actually had his diplomatic immunity lifted. He had diplomatic immunity through the Council of Europe where he served as Secretary General. This is the guy, by the way, who chaired the Nobel Committee when they gave Barack Obama his Nobel Peace Prize.

So he is now facing very serious criminal charges. We have seen, as you mentioned, the former Prince Andrew. But a lot of people whose names have not yet been publicly released also have very strange connections like this. Prince Andrew's brother, King Charles, was of course very close to the famous satanic pedophile Jimmy Savile, who used to be a BBC host and who actually was exposed abusing and sexually torturing enormous numbers of children. So this goes far deeper than the public is being led to believe. And so far in the United States, beyond a few resignations, we have not seen much accountability.

But I don't think they're going to be able to sustain that. I think the outcry is going to continue growing here. We've even seen Donald Trump and some of his spokesmen try to say we just need to move on. I don't think that's going to happen here. I don't think his base is going to accept that. I think the chips are going to have to fall where they may, but we've got people in his administration who are implicated in this. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick turns out he misled the American people about the extent of his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, he went to Jeffrey Epstein's island with his children.

Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express to Jeffrey Epstein's island. He's on the flight logs dozens of times. Bill Gates, of course, there's been a lot of fallout from that. But also the Rothschilds, right? The Rothschilds and the Rockefellers heavily implicated in this. Jeffrey Epstein himself brags about how David Rockefeller appointed him to the Trilateral Commission in 1990. I mean, that's hugely significant. The Trilateral Commission is one of the key institutions I identify in my book about the Deep State as being at the center of this plot.

And David Rockefeller is of course the architect of that. The Rothschilds are mentioned thousands of times in these files. And we're not supposed to talk about the Rothschilds, and yet this is a family that's been at the center of global power politics for centuries. Thousands of references. He was very close to the CEO of the Rothschild group. And this was not just a business relationship. She's sending him candles. They're going on tours of Cuba hosted by the Castro family. I mean, I have all these documents in my possession. They're now public.

So there has to be accountability here. And as for the Pizzagate thing, for the folks who don't remember that or only saw maybe an occasional headline or so, there was a major scandal. The FBI has long said that "pizza" is a term used by pedophiles to cover up what they're doing. Well, there are almost 900 references to "pizza" in these Epstein files. And if you read them, which I don't necessarily recommend that people do, but if you do, you will find very quickly they're not talking about pizza.

How does one share a pizza with seven individuals, a pizza slice with seven individuals? How does one torture a piece of pizza? These are obviously references to something else. We have the same thing with references to "jerky" and other terms that the FBI has known about for a long time. These are some of the most abominable crimes imaginable. And if we cannot punish even people who are perpetrating crimes against innocent children, that's literally the purpose of government. Then we have a major problem on our hands, and I think frankly the government will lose its legitimacy. The purpose of the government is to punish these very types of crimes. So we're not going to just be able to move past this and pretend like nothing happened.

David Wheaton: Now I want to get into a couple of the things you mentioned there with the Rothschilds, the Trilateral Commission, because it goes beyond a sex scandal. It goes deep into deep-state politics and globalism and transhumanism, all these different things. So let's get into some of this now. You posted an article by a man named Andrew Muller on your website, and he said in an article new files from the Department of Justice's disclosure of the Jeffrey Epstein files reveal ties between Epstein and the insiders, capital I Insiders, a small elite in politics, academia, and business who operate in a conspiracy to usher in a global government. Most significantly, Epstein worked with the Trilateral Commission and the Rothschilds banking dynasty. The new files show that Epstein was not only a depraved trafficker, but hyper-involved in the Insider apparatus at the highest levels of power.

I just wonder how could that be. I looked on some of the background of Jeffrey Epstein. He was born in New York to Jewish parents and he's one of two children, boys in the family. Went to public schools. He never finished college, but he was very smart in math. And then he worked his way up and he was a teacher for a while, then went into the financial industry and so forth. How on earth did this one man get so connected with the elite of the world that they entrusted so much to him when he really didn't have an elite background at all?

Alex Newman: It's a fascinating story and his career actually begins at a very elite private school where he began teaching. It's called the Dalton School. And at the time that Jeffrey Epstein was brought on, the school was under the control of Donald Barr, who happens to be the father of former US Attorney Bill Barr, also a critical player in the intelligence community. So this is a school where a lot of elitists converge. And what you see after he leaves that school is a meteoric rise in his career.

He seems to have gotten a lot of his money from Les Wexner, but he also got a lot of his money from the Rothschilds. In fact, we have a contract between him and the Rothschild group where he was paid $25 million for the "work" with a capital W. And there's vague references to like risk assessment or whatever. But clearly, this is a man who was being aided and abetted by some of the most powerful people in the world. And there are other examples that we can point to. I'm doing a cover story for The New American magazine right now about Jeffrey Epstein. We hope that'll be published soon here.

But if you look at the pattern of the Rothschilds building up people to be kind of front men for their operations, this goes back a long way. If you look at Cecil Rhodes, for example. Now, Cecil Rhodes, widely believed to have been a pedophile, widely believed to have been attracted to little boys. This is a man who owed his entire fortune to the Rothschild dynasty. He got his initial capital to start up his mining business in Southern Africa, the De Beers company, through N.M. Rothschild in London and the Rothschild Brothers Bank in France and in Switzerland.

The Rothschilds were actually hosting private events with their rich friends so that they could come and hear this guy, Cecil Rhodes. Now, Cecil Rhodes actually talks about in his book, "Confessions of Faith," the day he joined Freemasonry, he had this vision of a global political, economic, and religious structure. This was published in 1877, and within 10 years, the Rothschilds are just shoveling money into this guy's coffers. And of course, he goes on with his fortune. He leaves almost his entire fortune to Nathaniel Rothschild and he gives him instructions to create the Rhodes Scholarship at Oxford, which of course is the system that has trained people like Bill Clinton, people like Rachel Maddow, basically the managerial elite for the globalist class.

More recently, we see the Rothschilds creating George Soros. George Soros got his start—the initial money that built his Quantum Fund came from Banque Privée, which is a Rothschild bank in Switzerland. The returns were something like 3,000% over a period of a few decades before George Soros was convicted in a French court of insider trading. We all know about George Soros. Many of us know about Cecil Rhodes. But very few people know or talk about the Rothschild dynasty. It's a very similar situation with the Rockefellers where they kind of stay behind the scenes, but their money builds up these minions who then play front men.

And when you look at the Rockefellers, I would argue that they were instrumental in the rise of Epstein, but they also created Henry Kissinger, who then recruited Klaus Schwab to create the World Economic Forum. So you see behind the scenes these powerful money players, and I talk about them in my book, building up and financing front men to do kind of some of the dirty work. And I think that really explains Jeffrey Epstein. Yes, he was involved with intelligence agencies, certainly with the CIA. It appears he was linked to the Mossad and the MI6 in the UK. Also, there's good evidence to believe he was working with communist Chinese intelligence. So he's kind of a level above the intelligence agencies and he connects directly with some of the most powerful financial dynasties in the world, and I think that's really critical to understanding who Jeffrey Epstein was and what he was doing.

David Wheaton: Truly is amazing this man's connections. He had a gigantic ranch in New Mexico where there's all sorts of things going on there. He of course had the island, the Jeffrey Epstein island which was just to the east of Puerto Rico, a small island that he owned. He had a place in Palm Beach, I believe in New York, in France. So this man moved internationally very, very easily. Alex, you mentioned something about Israel there too. Being Jewish, he had tight ties with Ehud Barak, who's a former Israeli Prime Minister.

Again quoting Andrew Muller from your website, in an email from 2017, Epstein writes to an undisclosed recipient introducing former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, praising him as one of the most knowledgeable people he has met, even considering all the players he met at the Trilateral Commission. He quoted by saying, "I prefer not to get involved in defense issues, but Ehud Barak, the Jewish side of the family"—not sure who he's referring to in the family—"I believe would be a good intro for you. Happy to do so if you like," Epstein writing here. "He is the most knowledgeable of all the players I have known, including my stint on the Trilateral Commission." Unquote.

Ehud Barak is mentioned nearly 4,000 times in the Epstein files. Conversations between Epstein and Barak are frequent and include consistent business and networking efforts made by Epstein on Barak's behalf. And then this is an interesting quote. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, current Prime Minister, said in a statement after the recent file release that, quote, "Jeffrey Epstein's unusual close relationship with Ehud Barak doesn't suggest Epstein worked for Israel, it proves the opposite." Unquote.

So I'd like you to tell us, Alex, about the connections with Israel here. Was Epstein a blackmail agent for Israel as some people have said by taking these prominent people out to the island and videoing them and so forth and then he has things on them so you can control that person? Was that the kind of thing going on, and what did Benjamin Netanyahu mean by what he said that Epstein didn't work for Israel, it proves the opposite? What does that mean?

Alex Newman: So very much like in American politics, we have patriotic, God-fearing individuals who serve in government. And then we have deep-staters who maybe sometimes present themselves as what the voters would like to see, but then really are working at cross-purposes. And the state of Israel is no different. And Netanyahu's point is that Ehud Barak has actually been responsible for policies that have been very damaging to the state of Israel. And so he's arguing that the closeness between Epstein and Barak actually shows that Epstein was not a friend to Israel, but was actually quite the opposite.

There are very clear connections between Epstein and certain elements of power in Israel. One of the really obvious ones is his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell, who played a very significant role in recruiting and managing the children that he and his associates were sexually abusing. There was definitely an element of blackmail there. But to go back to Maxwell for a moment, her father, Robert Maxwell, was a very well-known operative not just for the Mossad, Israeli intelligence, but also for the MI6 and even the KGB, the Soviet intelligence service. He died under strange, mysterious circumstances, fell off of his boat. There's a lot of theories about what happened there.

"Fell off of his boat," I should put in air quotes. But when he died, he had a state funeral in Israel and the entire establishment attended, including the Prime Minister and the President and the six leaders of the intelligence agencies. So it's very clear that Epstein had connections with some of the more subversive elements of the Deep State in Israel, very much like he had those same connections with those same kinds of people here in the United States, and in England, and in France, and in many other countries. He was very close, as you see through the files, with some of the top leadership in communist China.

So this is just the kind of circles that he ran in. I'm inclined to agree with Netanyahu. Ehud Barak is not really a good representative of the state of Israel anymore than say Rothschild or Epstein would be a good representative of the Jewish people. These are people who clearly and flagrantly violate the laws that were given by God to Moses, which kind of form the foundation, the base of Jewish moral thought. But these connections are real, they need to be discussed. And frankly, I think the Israeli government ought to be launching its own investigation into what the nexus was with this guy because clearly, he had co-conspirators operating from the state of Israel.

David Wheaton: Can you believe how far-reaching this Jeffrey Epstein scandal extends to the elites all around the world who think they control the world, but they are ultimately doing their father the devil's bidding. We'll hear a sound bite on that later. Alex Newman, President of Liberty Sentinel Media, is our guest. After this short break, we have one more segment coming up with Alex as we discuss how Epstein was involved in transhumanism and what we are to do as Christians with what has been exposed about this Epstein scandal. I'm David Wheaton and you are listening to The Christian Worldview Radio Program.

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David Wheaton: Thanks for joining us on The Christian Worldview. I'm David Wheaton. Today's program and past programs, along with transcripts and short takes, are available at thechristianworldview.org. While there, you can also sign up for our weekly email and The Christian Worldview Journal print publication, order resources, and support the ministry. Our topic today is why the Jeffrey Epstein scandal is about more than a salacious island. And our guest is international journalist Alex Newman, President of Liberty Sentinel Media.

Alex, you said earlier in the interview just about Epstein again wasn't just connected with the elite, but he was also very Godless and trying to push the envelope on things like transhumanism and genetic engineering. You write that Epstein was a key player in bankrolling—so he's actually paying for this—a transhumanist nightmare, whether genetic engineering, human cloning, designer babies, embryo manipulation, eugenics. All of this was funded and discussed under the guise of cutting-edge "science" at elite universities. And you mention these ties he had to Harvard and Arizona State, I think MIT and others.

This was clearly not philanthropy in the traditional sense, you write. Instead, these were investments in reshaping humanity. Again, a man who didn't come from elite higher education, professorships, science, research, and this kind of thing. What kind of involvement did he have in these kinds of otherworldly endeavors like transhumanism and genetic engineering?

Alex Newman: As you read through some of these documents—and again, there's been about 3 million pages of files released so far, so even the most dedicated researchers are only just scratching the surface of what is known—but there's a very clear pattern emerging here. He had an obsessive interest in eugenics, in human genetics, in designer babies, in human cloning, in forced breeding. You mentioned his ranch in New Mexico, the Zorro Ranch. That has still, as of this broadcast, has still not been searched by law enforcement. They've searched his island, they've searched his properties in New York and in Palm Beach. They have not searched his island.

There's actually a reference in the documents to dead bodies buried out there. And if you look at some of the correspondence that's been released, there's one where a girl writes to Jeffrey Epstein in code—actually, the DOJ apparently decoded it—and says, "I'm not your personal breeder. Give me back my baby." He's corresponding with an individual called Bryan Bishop, who's better known for his role in Bitcoin, but really significant work is actually in DNA and genetics. And what he's talking to Epstein about is creating designer babies, creating specialized DNA, implanting these into wombs and then having babies born with desirable traits.

You see him obsessively talking about improving human genetics through genetic engineering. He has some very racist remarks about black people that he makes. To me, it looks like he was actually a central figure in the transhumanist movement. The academic institution that pops up more than any other in these files is one that I've been studying for years now. It's Arizona State University. Now, ASU is known for a lot of things. It should be known for the fact that its president, Michael Crow, is also the chairman of In-Q-Tel.

This is the investment arm of the American intelligence community, and they are key in the scientific space. They invest in all sorts of horrific ideas, very much including, by the way, what they themselves refer to as directed evolution. And The New York Times actually reported that he was hoping to seed humanity with his DNA even before all this really. So some of this was already starting to become apparent even to the mainstream years before these documents came out. But this is even more troubling than what The New York Times figured out.

I think what he was doing was through genetic engineering and through treatments like what we would call in vitro fertilization, I think they were implanting genetically engineered human beings into women and girls. And what they were doing with those products we don't know, but there's a lot of references to this again right in the text of the emails, the correspondence. It's not even written in code. Anybody can read these things. And you know, if you look then at his involvement in artificial intelligence, if you look at his involvement in neuroscience. Just this week, an individual resigned from Columbia University, a Dr. Axel, who was one of the foremost people involved in neuroscience, a Nobel laureate.

If you take all this together, you look at his relationship with Martin Nowak at Harvard University. Epstein had a key card to access one of the most advanced genetics laboratories in the world and was frequently doing so. In fact, we have correspondence from somebody who worked there saying, "Hey, we just changed our key cards. We need to get you your new key card access." And this Martin Nowak who led this laboratory—it was called the Program in Evolutionary Dynamics—he sends one email to Epstein where he asks, "Did you torture her?" So very, very strange things going on here. And I think really this is the key to understanding not just Jeffrey Epstein, but the Deep State itself. These people want to play God, they want to become God, they think they're going to secure eternal life, they think they're going to evolve into gods through the kinds of programs that Jeffrey Epstein—again, we have proof—was right at the center of.

David Wheaton: And these people are ruling the world and that makes sense for the way the world is going. So it does make sense and that's why we wanted to have you on the program today because this story isn't just about Jeffrey Epstein and some island in the Caribbean. It goes way, way beyond that to connections at the highest levels all around the world and what they're trying to do and where they're trying to take the world. So my final question for you, Alex, is what do you think Christians should be taking away from this story of Jeffrey Epstein? What would be the two or three things that everyone's heard about it to some degree? Not everyone is informed about all the different aspects of it and things have been dribbling out in the news and then they don't release things. At some point, it gets beyond people even thinking about it anymore, but it is important to know what's going on here. Not only from a criminal standpoint, be held accountable and justice, but just the way that the world is going. So what do you want our listeners to be taking away from this whole sordid affair of Jeffrey Epstein?

Alex Newman: Well, there's several things, David, and thank you for the opportunity to speak on this. I think maybe the most important one is: hey folks, the Bible is real. The Bible is true. Everything that the Bible says about the nature of reality you can take to the bank. Now the facts confirm it. Satan is a real enemy. What the Apostle Paul says in Ephesians chapter 6 about our battle not being against flesh and blood but against powers and principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places, it's true. It's real. That's what we're dealing with. And so I think that in a way should be an encouragement to Christians that God already knows all of this.

In fact, He promises that all of these wicked deeds are going to be dragged out into the light. Now that's probably not going to happen this week or next week, but at some point, all of these evil deeds that these evildoers are involved in, that they think they're hiding on their ranches and their private islands in their weird basements and secret laboratories, all this is going to be dragged out into the light. God already knows about it and it's all going to be exposed at some point. So we know that God's got a plan. We know that God is sovereign. And we know that He is allowing some of the evil that we see right now.

He's allowing some of these things to happen for the purpose of bringing greater glory to Himself. So we shouldn't be despairing about these revelations. We should actually be encouraged because the Bible is true and we know where all this will eventually lead. There will be some time in between, but if you read Revelation chapter 19, clearly Jesus Christ is coming back. He is going to stop all of this wickedness. And by the time everything is all over, Satan and his minions are going to be cast into the lake of fire forever and ever.

So we should actually be encouraged by this. But in terms of practical significance, I think this tells us a few really important things. First of all, take the Bible's admonition not to put your trust in men very seriously. As good as some politicians and statesmen may be, our trust is not to be in men, it's not to be in princes. Our trust is to be in the Lord. And that means we have to take seriously His instructions, for example, how we raise, educate, and disciple our children. We cannot continue to allow our children to be educated and discipled by institutions and systems, be they the entertainment world, the so-called education system, that are run by people who, as we can see so clearly from these documents, are hostile to God, are hostile to the Word of God.

So there are real practical implications for this. Once you understand that this is how the world works, we need to respond by being faithful and obedient to God. That brings blessing. So I want people to be encouraged by this even though it's evil. And I do think that we have an obligation as citizens of what's supposed to be a self-governing republic to demand accountability. If the federal government, if the Department of Justice won't prosecute these people, we've got 50 state attorneys general, one in every state. They can start initiating these proceedings. We've got district attorneys, we've got state attorneys, we've got sheriffs' departments. There's a nexus with New Mexico and Palm Beach and New York and all the places these people were stopping in their private jets. We need criminal investigations opened all over the country and all over the world, frankly. The people named in these files ought to be brought in for questioning under oath and there ought to be some accountability and we need it soon.

David Wheaton: Such good words, Alex. And I just thank you for staying on this story and exposing it with a biblical perspective, not just from a salacious standpoint, but for what this really means for the way the world operates. But as you mentioned, it's a good thing this is coming out. And whether there will be earthly justice, there will be eternal justice. No one gets away from God's eternal justice. So thank you for all you do, Alex, and for who you are. And thank you for coming on The Christian Worldview Radio Program today. We just wish all of God's best and grace to you and your family.

Alex Newman: Thank you, David. It's been a great honor and a great pleasure. God bless you, sir. Really appreciate it.

David Wheaton: We'll tell you how you can connect with Alex Newman in just a minute. But Jeffrey Epstein did an interview with Steve Bannon some years ago, who is a Republican political operative. Listen to how humanistic Epstein's values are and over what he shuts down the interview at the end.

Jeffrey Epstein: No, it's not. Why is it not dirty money? Because I earned it. The money I gave to help try to eradicate polio in Pakistan and India. Instead of asking me whether that money should be given to these children for vaccines, I think you might want to ask their mothers who received the vaccine, who know their child now won't get polio. And ask them if Epstein should have helped these people.

Steve Bannon: Do they know where the money came from? I think if you told them the devil himself said, "I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life." Do you think you're the devil himself?

Jeffrey Epstein: No, but I do have a good mirror. I'm sorry.

Steve Bannon: It’s a serious question. Do you think you're the devil himself?

Jeffrey Epstein: No, why would you say that?

Steve Bannon: Because you have all the attributes. You’re incredibly smart, and remember, the devil is someone who knows the devil—the devil’s brilliant. You read Milton’s Paradise Lost.

Jeffrey Epstein: No, the devil scares me. I saw that in a movie once, called American Dharma. I don't remember who said it. Okay, we have to go.

David Wheaton: Epstein claims to know nothing about the devil. His avoidance of the subject, however, may indicate otherwise. There may not have been much earthly justice for Jeffrey Epstein. There may not be for the other people involved in this. Wealth, power, and fame provide a lot of protection in this life. But there will be eternal justice from God. God sees everything, and He will hold all of us accountable.

The last words of the book of Ecclesiastes say, "The conclusion when all has been heard is fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person. For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil." You and I may not have sinned to the depths of Jeffrey Epstein, but we have sinned against God nonetheless and deserve His judgment. Jesus calls us to repent and believe in the Gospel, the good news that He satisfied God's justice and wrath for our sin on the cross and then rose victoriously from the grave. If you have never trusted in Christ as your Savior and Lord, today is the day of salvation. Scripture says, "Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved."

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