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Male Announcer: This is Viewpoint with attorney and author Chuck Crismier. Viewpoint is a one-hour talk show confronting the issues of America's heart and home. And now, with today's edition of Viewpoint, here is Chuck Crismier.

Chuck Crismier: Yesterday, the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, read from the Oval Office the words of 2 Chronicles 7:14: "If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I would hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land."

He was one of 500 over a period of two days ostensibly reading the Bible from cover to cover and maybe the cover too in America as a demonstration to bring America back under God. Reading the Bible—how could we be distressed with reading the Bible? I'm not distressed with reading the Bible. I think it's wonderful that we're reading the Bible, even though the Bible doesn't tell us to read it; it tells us to study it, to obey it, to do what it says, and not deceive ourselves. But on the other hand, it's better to read the Bible than not to read it.

So we're reading it. 500 leaders of various ilks throughout the nation are reading the Bible now consecutively to make sure it's read from cover to cover and the cover too, led by the President of the United States in the most quoted scripture concerning revival and repentance. It has been quoted over and over for the past 40 years in America's National Days of Prayer: "If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I would hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land." But if they won't, there will be hell to pay. That's basically what Donald Trump read from the scriptures in 2 Chronicles 7 yesterday.

Today on Viewpoint, we take a look at where we stand. Where we stand received a wonderful email from one of our listeners today, presenting a piece called "America's Real Crisis is Biblical Illiteracy." As America approaches its 250th anniversary, the nation finds itself preoccupied with familiar concerns: political polarization, civic deterioration, institutional distrust, and cultural fragmentation.

These, says Troy Miller, are serious realities, but they are not ultimate ones. They are symptoms of a deeper disorder: biblical illiteracy. He said, "I've become increasingly convinced that the central problem confronting both church and culture is not merely moral rebellion against biblical truth, but widespread unfamiliarity with it."

He continued, "We see this in public officials who invoke God in the language of prosperity, national sentiment, or self-affirmation rather than repentance, moral accountability, and divine authority. We see it in podcasters, influencers, and media personalities who handle scripture with confidence but little theological discipline. We see it in Christian audiences so underperformed that charisma, sentiment, and ideology are often mistaken for sound doctrine. The issue is no longer simply that scripture is denied; it's that scripture is often no longer known with sufficient depth to be interpreted responsibly, rejected intelligently, or applied coherently."

This is new territory, writes Troy Miller. In decades past, most Americans at least knew what they were rejecting. As society has lost the categories necessary to understand truth, it has entered a truly precarious condition. So he says biblical illiteracy, therefore, is not a peripheral church problem; it's a civilizational problem. I couldn't agree with him more, but the real problem, as I see it, is not biblical illiteracy per se. It's the unwillingness to obey what it says. Even where there is supposedly biblical literacy, people are not obeying what it says.

Jesus' brother said, "Be ye doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves." Today on Viewpoint, I want to take a look at more of a composite picture concerning this because as we speak, the Bible is being finished being read across the fruited plains of America from a Bible museum in Washington, D.C., our nation's capital. Is the Bible intended to be read from a museum? Well, maybe there's a reason why we have the museum. And certainly, we can give gratitude to the Green family, the founders of Hobby Lobby, who have invested much of their wealth in order to preserve the Bible and its remembrance in our lives and in our nation.

But the problem is, if we're going to remember the Bible, it should categorize or lead us to doing what it says, responding to its message and doing what it says. Right? Well, we want to talk about the bigger picture of this today on Viewpoint. I'm glad that you've joined us. This conversation is, as always, with ever-increasing conviction—talk that transforms.

Did you know that over 28,000 people were baptized at hundreds of gatherings across the United States on Pentecost Sunday as part of a nationwide revival event? Well, that was last year. In partnership with Baptize America, over 600 churches hosted more than a thousand separate events where people professed their faith in Jesus and were baptized. In fact, 7,700 of them were baptized at Huntington Beach, where my wife and I used to enjoy ourselves when we were yet in Southern California, even when I was dating her there at Huntington Beach.

But now, 7,700 were baptized at Huntington Beach in the largest single-day baptism in U.S. history. Is that what the Christian faith is all about? The Bible says, "Believe and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved." But it begins with the word "believe." But what does that mean? Does that mean to believe that there is a God? Does that mean to believe that there is a Jesus? Does that mean to believe that Jesus died on the cross and rose again? Well, yes, it means to believe all of that, but much more.

It means to hang your life on what you say you believe. That's the meaning, the Hebrew meaning of the word "believe." Believe means to be a doer of the word and not just a hearer, not just go under the water but come out of the water as a true follower of Jesus Christ in all that He said and did. As Jesus said, "As the Father has sent me, even so now I send you." What did the Father do to send Jesus? He sent Him to do what He said, to say what He said. Jesus said, "I only say the things that my Father has said, I only do the things that I see Him doing," and now He says, "now you go and do likewise."

Well, does baptism indicate that we have a massive revival in the country? Maybe and maybe not. I hope so. But you see, you can be baptized and it mean almost nothing. Did you know that? You can be baptized and it mean almost nothing. And that's why Jesus said in His great commission, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, teaching them to obey everything that I've commanded." Wow. We'll be right back.

Chuck Crismier: Once upon a time, children could pray and read their Bibles in school. Divorces were practically unknown, as was child abuse. In our once-great America, virginity and chastity were popular virtues, and homosexuality was an abomination. So what happened in just one generation? Hi, I'm Chuck Crismier, and I urge you to join me daily on Viewpoint, where we discuss the most challenging issues touching our hearts and homes. Could America's moral slide relate to the fourth commandment? Listen to Viewpoint on this radio station or anytime at saveus.org.

Chuck Crismier: From baptizing at Huntington Beach in Southern California to baptizing 28,000 across the country on Pentecost Sunday, and now Mark Francey, pastor of Oceans Church of California, the man behind Baptize America, says it's time to baptize the world. So he wants to create a program—a program to encourage everybody around the world to be baptized. "Repent and be baptized for the kingdom of God is at hand," said Jesus.

It's time for America and the rest of the world, he said, to see what God is doing, thus fulfilling our part for the hour is late and Jesus is coming soon. So Francey previously organized Baptize California in May of last year to be an annual event. Now, according to him, he wants to have Baptize the World. So if we have a program that everybody gets excited about to go around the world and baptize people, are we really doing the work of the kingdom? That's an interesting question.

Who can come against baptism? But if we're being baptized as sort of a social acceptance thing and everybody is wanting to be baptized, what does it mean? Does it really mean that we're true believers? Does it really mean that we're obeying the word, will, and ways of God? No, it doesn't mean that at all. And so baptism is not what saves us; it is true belief and obedience to the Lord, humbling ourselves before Him, trusting His grace, which is not only His unmerited favor but also His enabling power to enable us to do His will—in other words, to obey His voice—in preparation for the coming of the Lord.

And so all of that here today on Viewpoint, as we take a look now that the Bible is being read across the fruited plains of America, where do we stand with regard to humbling ourselves before the Lord, doing His will? Where do we stand with regard to obeying His voice? Well, maybe it would help us if we understood what some pastors are saying. Now, this is by way of illustration to help us understand. Remember, the question was "America's real crisis is biblical illiteracy." But what if those who are proclaiming words from the scriptures are biblically literate but still don't obey or don't agree with what the Bible has to say?

For instance, a church bishop claims the Bible is not the word of God and requires a third testament. A bishop of the United Church of Christ has lashed out angrily at the Bible, condemning it as not the word of God and unacceptable because of the verses that it contains. Her name is Yvette Flunder, senior pastor at the City of Refuge United Church of Christ in Oakland, California, and she has a perfect solution: rip out the pages that she finds offensive and have a third testament interwoven to fix the two.

Wow. In other words, she doesn't like a lot of what the Bible has to say. She's a proponent of what is called liberation theology. She is gay-married to another woman and is about as progressive and liberal as they come. She says it's a very dangerous thing that I'm about to say, a bit dangerous, but I'm of the opinion, she said, that we need a third testament, not just the New and Old, because the Bible has become problematic.

She said it says, "Slaves, obey your masters; let the women keep silence in the church. If they have questions, let them go to their husbands." She said, "Now I'm a believer in my whole heart. I trust God with my whole heart," she says. "I wake up in the morning, talk to God and God talking to me. But I'm completely frustrated with the ways in which the Bible text speaks to the kind of vitriolic God that makes those kinds of things."

So she says, "And people will say, 'Well, it's in the book,' and I say, 'Then we need to pull the page out.' They say, 'Well, you can't do it. It's the word of God.' She said, 'No, it's the words about God.' But is it the word of God? No, it's not the word of God." What do you think? Here's a woman who knows what the word of God says but says it's not the word of God. Yet she's a bishop. She's a bishop.

And then we have a fellow running for the Senate in Texas, a red state. His name is James Talarico. One person said—a fellow by the name of David French, who is supposed to be an evangelical commentator—says, "These days I'm asked more about James Talarico than I'm asked about any politician named Donald Trump." Talarico is a 36-year-old Texas State Representative and the Democratic Party's latest and greatest hope for ridding its first statewide election in Texas in more than 30 years.

He also is one of the most faith-forward politicians in the United States. Well, what does it mean to be faith-forward? Well, Mr. Talarico believes in very much like Bishop Yvette Flunder, the senior pastor at the City of Refuge United Church of Christ in Oakland, California. Very much like her, he believes in the practice of homosexuality. But Mr. French, the evangelical, asked about his column that described Talarico as one of the few openly Christian politicians in the United States who acts as a Christian. French is a former member of the Presbyterian Church in America and actually now has basically embraced Talarico.

He said, "I'm not going to write these people out, like Bishop Flunder or Talarico. I'm not going to write them out as actual Christians." So what is a Christian? When we read the Bible, what is it supposed to lead us to? To embrace Jesus Christ as Lord, Master, Savior, Redeemer, Friend, the only begotten Son of God, full of grace and truth, right? So Talarico's left-leaning policy positions, said Mr. French, are not interesting to me. He's more interested in Talarico's polite demeanor.

So it's not what you believe; it's how you behave. Well, there's a certain truth to that because our behavior should reveal what we believe. Well, that brings us to another problem, a real problem because from the desk in the White House came the presidential reading of the scripture in 2 Chronicles 7:14: "If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I would hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land."

Then not long ago in the White House, there were a whole group of about 25 evangelical pastors, leaders, and so on, including a woman by the name of Paula White, also known as Paula White-Cain, who heads up our current president's faith group. She's the head. Known for her roles in Donald Trump's two presidential administrations, she served as a pastor for years, has a national television program, but that's not all. That's not all. She's been married three times. I think Donald Trump's been married three times.

And now the person that she's currently married to has an interesting message for you and for me, aired from the pulpit together with Paula White-Cain. We're going to hear a very interesting message after the upcoming break from Paula White-Cain, actually from her husband, while she is standing at the podium before her congregation. They call her a televangelist, finds herself at home in Trump's White House.

In March, six weeks after President Trump appointed her to lead his White House faith office and set her up with an office in the West Wing of the White House, evangelical Christian leader Paula White preached in a YouTube sermon that the Passover to Easter period provided the faithful with an opportunity to receive seven supernatural blessings. She said, "God will assign you an angel, and he'll be an enemy to your enemies. He'll give you prosperity," citing a verse from the scriptures.

Then the video pivoted into a fundraising mode, outlining a series of gifts for honoring God and supporting her ministry, culminating in a Waterford crystal cross for a Passover-Easter resurrection offering of $1,000 or more. And next came footage of Trump in the Oval Office, lauding White's ministry and political work. Trump said, "You've helped us so much in so many different ways." Over a four-decade career as a preacher and televangelist, the now 58-year-old White has become both enormously influential and controversial in the evangelical world.

Her 24-year friendship with Donald Trump, which she said began when he called her after seeing her preach on a Florida TV station, has culminated in a role that combines religion and politics in ways that have little precedent in modern White House history. Well, that's true. Those are true facts. Paula White-Cain was appointed to oversee the Office of Faith there at the White House. During his second term, President Donald Trump appointed his longtime personal spiritual advisor and friend Paula White-Cain to oversee faith partnerships.

Then following the National Prayer Breakfast, Trump had signed another executive order on eradicating anti-Christian bias, tapping attorney general Pam Bondi to prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism. The new White House faith office lists a broad range of issues for faith leaders to coordinate with the administration, including issues of religious liberty, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, and additional forms of anti-religious bias. Nothing wrong with that.

While some have taken issue with White-Cain's involvement, opposing her prosperity preaching or her position as a female pastor, several of the president's evangelical faith advisors have happily accepted invitations to pray alongside her or even endorse her work. What is this all about? Is this good, bad, or ugly? Paula White, a Florida televangelist often associated with the prosperity gospel, joins the administration's outreach efforts through the faith and opportunity initiative.

The New York Times wrote: "Formed last year through an executive order, the initiative set out to deepen faith-based partnerships, particularly around poverty relief and to protect religious liberty on the federal level." Paula White, who met Trump 24 years ago through her televised sermons, was among the 25 evangelical advisors who joined his campaign in 2016. She visits with the president regularly to pray and discuss faith and politics. White has not made an announcement or confirmed the appointment on social media, but she stepped down from her church in Orlando in May of 2016.

When we get back, we're going to hear a different perspective. And the reason we're going to do this is not so much for the purpose of demeaning Paula White-Cain. That's not what we do here on this program. But to reveal the nature of so-called Christian leadership that we have. Where does it lead and what does it tell us about the reading of the Bible?

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Chuck Crismier: Today on Viewpoint, we're taking a look at the impact or import and comparative value of reading the Bible by 500 nationally recognized Christian leaders over a period of a few days this very week. Yesterday, the centerpiece being Donald J. Trump from the White House in the Oval Office, 2 Chronicles 7:14: "If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I would hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land."

When I was the head of the National Day of Prayer task force for the Commonwealth of Virginia for four years, we quoted that scripture and we put the focus, the emphasis, where the Bible puts the emphasis: not on praying, but on turning from our wicked ways. That's the heart of that passage: turning from our wicked ways. In 1996, I was with 4,000 Christian leaders gathered together in St. Louis for Pray St. Louis, sponsored by the founder of Campus Crusade for Christ, who had won the Templeton Award providing a million dollars which he used to invest in that particular endeavor.

In a break after the 4,000 people were gathered to pray for the church in America, I met privately with one of the premier prayer leaders in America. And I said as we faced face-to-face in close proximity, I said, "How is it that over these years we have quoted 2 Chronicles 7:14? 'If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I would hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.' We've had themes about 'heal our land,' we've had themes called 'seek his face.' We haven't talked about humbling ourselves, and neither have we talked about turning from our wicked ways. Why is it we've never had a theme of repentance?" And here was the answer. Listen very carefully. Three words: "It's too negative. It's too negative."

In other words, the very heart of that passage was too negative. And yet that is the hope of the heart for salvation and redemption and the restoration of the United States of America here as we're prepared to celebrate the 250th political anniversary of the country: repentance, turn from our wicked ways. Now, if we're willing to quote scripture and read the Bible in such a way that we don't recognize our wicked ways and we actually embrace them even in the name of Christ, where does that leave us? That's the question that's on the table for the balance of the program today. Where does that leave us?

Now, I want to go back to discussing Paula White-Cain for a moment. She was chosen as a White House spiritual advisor and faith office lead due to her longstanding personal relationship with Donald Trump, serving as his personal pastor since 2002 after he saw her on television. She acted as a key liaison to evangelical voters and helped solidify support among conservative Christians who viewed her as a trusted spiritual guide. A trusted spiritual guide. She advised Trump for over two decades, leading private Bible studies and prayer circles, credited by even my friend James Dobson, who recently passed away, as helping Donald Trump to guide him to Christianity.

She regards religious freedom, supporting Israel, focusing on policies to aid faith-based organizations, which is great. She was known for offering staunch personal loyalty to Mr. Trump and spiritual support, even leading prayers in the Oval Office. But what else did she support? Let's listen to a podcaster from South Africa. He goes by the name of Solomon Wisdom. And he's talking about this situation. Maybe we need to hear a voice coming from outside to help us identify some of the problems that we're facing inside, even as we're talking about baptisms all over the country, even as we're talking about reading the Bible all over the country, even as we're talking about everything we talk about—words, words, words. But listen to Solomon's words. They might be instructive to us.

Solomon: Also, her husband—you're going to see the video now—Jonathan Cain. Paula White is his third wife, third marriage now. And Paula White is also in her third marriage. So like one, two, three, right? Now, things happen in marriage and people go apart. Totally understood that. But when it's the first, the second, the third, then there must be a problem. She got married as a teenager, got a son, left, and then married to Randy White, her last husband. No kids. He was her second marriage, adopted three of his kids. And now she got married to Jonathan Cain. Before she got married to her third husband, she was actually involved—she and Benny Hinn were seen coming out of a hotel hand-in-hand. So this video that she made with her husband in church, and her husband encouraging women to do anything to please their own husband, and actually, even if it means the wives need to watch porn with their husband, it is fine. She meant you have to—they meant you have to watch porn to learn to satisfy and please your husband. Go ahead and do that. Can you believe that? This is the same Paula White who is the chief spiritual leader at the White House for Donald Trump. Shocking. Here is a video here, watch it.

Paula White-Cain: Wait till we get to your sex life. We're just starting right now. I realize the kids are in here. Praise the Lord. Thank you, Pastor Dan.

Jonathan Cain: I think, too, women have to—or don't have to, but women should look at a man and find out what turns him on. I mean, and you can talk about this as something like, you know, how freaky do you want to get? You know what I mean? And if you don't have that conversation with your man, if you don't have that conversation, then, you know, you're not fulfilling everything that he really truly wants. And so this part, the sexual fulfillment, comes with deep study within each other. You have to look inside and say, what turns you on? You know, what is it that you like to do? And if you don't have that conversation, it's going to be broken somewhere. And the other part of it is, ladies, if you don't know what he likes, you know, figure it out. Get a book, go get—or do something. He likes to watch porn? Watch porn with him.

Chuck Crismier: All right, did you hear that? Watch porn with him. Now, bear in mind, this is in front of an entire large, large congregation. This is the third husband who happens to be a renowned former rock and roll star. A renowned former rock and roll star—that's her third husband. One, two, three. And what does Jesus say? Who over divorces their spouse causes them to commit adultery, and whoever marries the one so divorced commits adultery.

What did the Bible say, the Apostle Paul say, about marriage, divorce, and remarriage? Even serial remarriage—it becomes serial adultery, right? The Apostle Paul says, "Don't be deceived: neither fornicators nor adulterers nor practicing homosexuals and so on are going to inherit the kingdom of God." That would be, of course, unless they repent. But there is no repentance here. This is the celebration of serial remarriages, serial adultery, and not only that, but sexual promiscuity in the form of porn.

Chuck Crismier: Have you ever considered what the early church was like? Many people are developing a heart longing for a greater fulfillment in our practices as Christians. A recent study showed 53,000 people a week are leaving the back door of America's churches in frustration. What is going on? Why has there not been even a one percent gain among followers of Christ in the last 25 years? Could it be that God is seeking to restore first-century Christianity for the 21st century? Jesus said, "I'll build my church." Is Christ by His Spirit stirring to prepare the church for the 21st century? The early church prayed together and broke bread from house to house. They were family, and it was said by all who observed, "Behold how they love one another." Incredible, but the same can be found right now. Go to saveus.org and click Cell Church. We can revive first-century Christianity for the 21st century. It's about people, not programs. It's about the body, not a building. That's saveus.org. Click Cell Church.

Chuck Crismier: Again, I welcome you back to Viewpoint. Today, we're taking a look at the reality of the ostensible call to righteousness in America by the reading of the Bible in its fullness this very week, led also by our president from the Oval Office reading 2 Chronicles 7:14: "If my people, which are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then and only then would I hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land."

In other words, we're talking about coming down to the reality of what it means to truly follow Jesus, what it truly means to repent, what it truly means to come into alignment with the word, will, and ways of God so that He might be able to heal our land. As we approach the 250th anniversary, is it going to take a million baptisms? Would that do it? No, that wouldn't do it if you have the same beliefs that Paula White-Cain has, if you have the same beliefs that the bishop that we noted earlier has.

And then what do you make of the fact that numerous renowned evangelical pastors signed up to endorse Paula White's book? Some of whom I know. Why did they do that? To ingratiate themselves with presidential favor and one who has the ear of the president. That's why they do it. It's not about the authority of the word of God; it's about the authority of political power and rubbing off on one another. It borders on a kind of, shall we say, incidental idolatry.

Friends, we've got to be very honest with ourselves. Pastors, we have to be very, very honest with ourselves: why we do what we do, why we say what we say, why we don't say what we don't say, and so on. A lot of times it's not what we say; it's what we don't say that really makes the difference, and people know the difference. We have to have a kind of holy boldness. When Paula White in 2021 went to South Korea for a prayer rally for peace, she was hosted by the Unification Church's Universal Peace Federation. She called the widow of the Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon a "jewel from God," talking about how she loves the Lord. Why would you say things like that? You're trying to ingratiate yourself for political and religious purposes. That's not what we are called to do.

Now, let's listen to the rest of the story from South Africa with Solomon.

Jonathan Cain: You should look at a man and find out what turns him on. I mean, and you can talk about this as something like, you know, how freaky do you want to get? You know what I mean? And if you don't have that conversation with your man, then you're not fulfilling everything that he really truly wants. And so this part, the sexual fulfillment, comes with deep study within each other. You have to look inside and say, what turns you on? What is it that you like to do? And if you don't have that conversation, it's going to be broken somewhere. And the other part of it is, ladies, if you don't know what he likes, figure it out. Get a book, go get—or do something. He likes to watch porn? Watch porn with him.

Chuck Crismier: Go get into porn with your husband. So he's encouraging husbands, who apparently he already presumes are into porn, to get it on with their wives pornographically. And he talks about pleasing your husband. Well, women, let me ask you a question: who is your husband? Is your husband ultimately Jesus, Yeshua, the Lord of the church? Are you the bride of Christ? Then should we not predominantly be interested in pleasing Him rather than pleasing our husbands by ingratiating yourselves into His good graces through pornographic association?

Can you get your mind and heart around this? This is what's happened in our culture. This is what's happened in the church culture, friends, when 37% approximately of pastors admit to being involved in porn. When over 70% of professing Christian men admit to being involved in porn, when 34% of professing Christian women admit to being involved in various forms of female porn which they find oftentimes in books and so on. I mean, where are we?

When the Bible talks about keeping our minds and our hearts pure, we're actually filling them with porn. And once you have filled your mind with porn, you can never get rid of it. You can pray all you want, and those images will still keep coming up. And now we've redefined godly sex. Now we've established false expectations in the bedroom where the scripture says the bed is holy and undefiled. How can you say it's holy and undefiled when we're engaged in this kind of behavior under the words of a woman and her husband, three times married without repentance, and now promoting porn for sexual fulfillment in front of an entire huge number of professing Christians who are hanging on every word as Paula White-Cain is laughing uproariously as her husband, a former rock star, is carrying out this message? I'm sorry, my friends.

Now, we have the same kind of thing going on down there in Texas with a so-called pastor, seminarian Talarico, James Talarico. His progressive take on Christianity, which has made him an online sensation—an online sensation. He's carrying to the masses a message of sexual promiscuity, lesbianism, homosexuality, transgenderism, and abortion, all in the name of Christ. All in the name of Christ and with a nice smile.

Then a message came from our mother country. Rowan Williams, who served as the Archbishop of Canterbury for ten years, now has questioned as of last month whether the Anglican Communion can survive. He said, "I don't know whether the Anglican Communion will survive." Now, the Anglican Communion is supposedly the conservative branch of Episcopalianism here in America. He said the job of Archbishop is no walk in the park.

And then he's warning the new Archbishop of Canterbury, a woman, the first time a woman, Sarah Mullally, has been appointed to that position, addressing the Church of England General Synod on February 10, 2026. I'm looking at her picture right now. She is an acknowledged and joyous lesbian. And now she has been appointed the first woman in this position and now has expressed views supporting both women's ordination and same-sex blessings. And all of this in the name of Christ. Where do you think this is going to go? Is this going to lead to more unity in Christ, or is it going to lead to more rebellion in the name of Christ?

A leader from Africa among the Anglicans said that the time the Church of England had chosen a leader who will further divide an already split communion. He said due to the failure of successive Archbishops of Canterbury to guard the faith, that office can no longer function as a credible leader of Anglicans, let alone a focus of unity. He said we can no longer recognize the Archbishop of Canterbury as an instrument of communion. There is no spiritual authority there anymore.

No wonder the former Archbishop of Canterbury said he questions whether the Anglican Communion will survive. The question that we should have on our minds and hearts is whether Christianity can survive in this country given the kind of leadership that is so compromised, that is using the name of Christ to compromise at every level. We say we believe the Bible from cover to cover and the cover too, but is the real issue illiteracy of the Bible? I believe that that's part of the problem. I do. I agree with that from Troy Miller. We read part of his piece. I do agree with that. But it's not just illiteracy. It's the refusal of those who are literate to obey it. That's the bigger problem. That's where hypocrisy comes in. It's a kind of open-faced mockery to Christ Himself. It's like daring Jesus to come down from the cross, saying, "This is what we believe now, Jesus. If you disagree with it, come down from the cross and tell us. Otherwise, this is the new gospel we're preaching."

Question: is that new gospel, that revised gospel, truth? Will it save a single soul? Will it save a nation poised on the 250th anniversary of its political birth while having already rejected its spiritual birth years before? You might want to get a copy of my book, *Renewing the Soul of America*. I think it would be encouraging and helpful to you. $15 will put it in your hands, *Renewing the Soul of America*, one person at a time, beginning with you. Friends, if you think we're not in the need of prayer, think again. That book will encourage your heart; there's a reason 38 national Christian leaders endorsed it. *Renewing the Soul of America* on the website saveus.org, call us 1-800-SAVE-USA, write to us, add $6 for postage and handling. And friends, let's humble ourselves before the Lord. Seek His face, yes, but turn from our wicked ways.

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