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Rebecca St. James: Hi and welcome to Practice Makes Parent where we understand it's not about perfection but about transformation. I'm Rebecca St. James.

Dr. Danny Huerta: And I'm Dr. Danny Huerta and do you ever find yourself only noticing your limitations or do you have kids saying I just can't do that. Do you have that happening in your house? Well, today we're going to be challenging those two things and today's guest embodies what it means to be resilient and to follow in what God has for you in your life no matter what and man excited about this conversation today.

Rebecca St. James: Well, this is a friend of mine. I love it when I get to welcome a friend of mine to this show. But we connected probably a couple decades ago and then connected in LA to when I was living out there. And so he's Aussie and just has the most amazing heart. This is an extraordinary human that our audience is about to connect with. Nick Vujicic is just an amazing amazing guy. Loves Jesus with all his heart. Is a father. Is a wonderful husband. His wife is a legend. That's what we say in Australia. She's a legend.

But he entered this world with a very big challenge and that is that he was born without arms or legs facing challenges, disappointments, and questions that most of us can barely even imagine and he's risen above. His story is a story of victory and through his faith and his perseverance and the steadfast love of his family, what could have been a story defined by limitations and really lifelong losses became exactly the opposite, a story of purpose, hope, marriage, fatherhood, and tremendous impact around the globe.

Dr. Danny Huerta: Nick's story is a powerful reminder that our children's lives are not defined by the obstacles that they face. And many of our kids have some sort of obstacle in front of them, but really it's defined by God who walks them through the struggles and and you know, when we think about our Christian faith, many times we don't think about the struggles being the deepest part of our faith and we we think that if I believe in God, everything's going to just go exactly how I planned it going. I'm going to pray and he's going to answer my prayers.

That's not how it works out. It's really about being able to step towards that faith in Christ, especially when things are not going the way we thought they were going to go. And sometimes the greatest gift a parent can offer is not a perfect plan but a faithful presence, an unwavering belief, a listening heart, and trust in God's greater purpose. And I took my kids to an event at a local church here in Colorado Springs a few years ago and Nick was the speaker.

Rebecca St. James: Oh, wow.

Dr. Danny Huerta: And both my son and daughter were completely moved by his testimony, by his story. They still remember that event at that church. So glad we went to it. Nick is an author, a motivational speaker, and he's been called this generation's Billy Graham. He's married with four children and he has a new movie that just came out called No Limbs, No Limits, the Nick V story. I love the movie. My wife and I had tears coming out and we highly recommend your whole family watches this movie. It's truly our pleasure to welcome Nick to our show, Practice Makes Parent.

Nick, welcome.

Nick Vujicic: Thank you. Danny, Rebecca, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it and wonderful to reconnect with you, Rebecca. I need to say that God has used you tremendously as a catalytic inspiration when I was 17 year old feeling God stirring me to go to the the nations and preach the gospel and just want to say thank you and to your family for the incredible inspiration that you've been to hundreds of millions of people around the world.

Rebecca St. James: Oh, friend, it's such a blessing to hear that. Thank you for your encouragement and you're a gift to my life and to the world and just so grateful that you give us this time and we know our audience is just going to be so blessed by your story. So let's let's dive right in. You know, we on the show really seek to help parents as they journey through the adventure of raising children and we want to be so practical and I think one of the things that hit me about watching your absolutely fabulous movie and I want my kids, my husband to see it because I think every person should see it.

It's high impact. But your mom and dad in the film were very honest about not knowing how to raise you. They had fears about your future. I think it'd be wonderful if we just started back in Australia and what your family life was like cuz the movie shows it but just in your own words right now, what was that like growing up in your family?

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, I'm so first and foremost blessed to have Boris and Dushka as my dad and my mom who migrated from Yugoslavia to Australia in the '60s. They met there and so the Serbian community just like all the the migrants in in Melbourne kind of clustered together and so they loved on me from day one if you will. They committed. But man, they took me home but I can't imagine the thoughts, the feelings, the surreal feelings that the shock that they had when I was born not knowing I was going to be born this way. They did take me home and they loved on me on that but my dad was the first one to say okay, God, we don't know what we don't know but we're going to definitely take him home.

And my mom said yeah, we'll take him home but man like just give me a minute, right? Four months of going through the grieving. She describes it almost as the grieving of the child that she never had. You know, you have your thoughts of what your child would look like and what his future could be and they were very raw and I think what I love about the transparent comments of not just mom taking four months before she really came to terms with it and had peace about it. But the reality that even though you're a strong Christian for many many years, you still have those thoughts, those fears, those worries, those concerns that the enemy comes in and tries to get a grip of things.

And so we wanted this as raw as possible so people understand that just because you love God and you trust him, it doesn't mean it's easy. It doesn't mean you don't go through depression or concerns or fears like that.

Dr. Danny Huerta: Nick, how did your mom work through that? Do you just as a mom you're explaining some big emotions that she was feeling at the moment. She said hey, give me a moment, right? Give me some space here to to process this. How did she do that? Did she has she given you insight into what she did? Were there people in her life that spoke life into that? Did she go to prayer? She's in the movie. She she she seems like such a strong woman.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, look she is. Both my mom and dad were very strong in their faith. They actually planted a church 11 months before I was born but they did have that church community and a lot of relatives around them including their own parents letting them know that if you're going to give him up for adoption, we'll adopt him. And they're like no no no, we feel you know, he's our son. God has a plan for him. We just we just don't know what it looks like right now. I think it's just time to actually reflect, be honest with yourself, say what needs to be said.

But I think a lot of tears, a lot of fear, a lot of sleepless nights. Before they took me home, I had a little bit of an infection, just a normal infection. So I was in a hospital for a couple days before they took me home. And my mom was sharing this is not in the movie actually but she was sharing like how both mom and dad went home, looked at the crib and just knew that their son coming home had no limbs and there's no medical explanation and where is God and why. They were just grieving and crying.

I think them going through it together was the biggest thing. They were a team, mom and dad and I I I think that was beautiful.

Rebecca St. James: You know, I think one of the most incredible things you know is in the movie when you're talking about your childhood and there's so much footage from your childhood and throughout your entire life, Nick, it's amazing how much your mom filmed and it seems like you just have countless hours of footage of your life and you lived such a full childhood and you said that your your siblings, your cousins, your parents I don't know instilled a sense of you can do anything. I mean maybe that limitlessness was instilled in you from really young because you did all the things.

You're skateboarding and swimming in the pool and doing all the things. When you look back now, like you have conquered the world. You've done it all. You 've done skydiving. You I mean there's nothing that Nick can't do and with the power of God. And was that just instilled in you really young cuz you went to a normal school, all of it. Like speak to that. Speak to how it was in your family.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, look that the odds were definitely stacked against us as a family, as an individual. In fact, the doctor said that I would never walk but then my mom just rolled me around and developed my muscles and my ab core structure and eventually, you know, we surprised all the doctors. I could walk. I could roll around. I could do all these things and I think it was actually the mentality of okay, I need to give my son the best shot at failing along the way in figuring out what he can and cannot do. And I think that was incredible wisdom and the grace of God where they allowed me to try things, fail through things and not just go through things but grow through things, not cuddle me and protect me as some parents would have done in that case.

They actually also told my parents I would never go to a normal school but my mom fought and put a case before the state government that her son should be integrated into a mainstream school. Remember the trailblazing pioneering integrating family if you will that was nationally on news for it. My brother and sister, my mom, my dad, they just loved on me. I knew I had no limbs but I didn't think it was a big deal till I actually went to school and some people that would never expose to people with disabilities would then cause me to think oh yeah, I am weird.

I am different. They'd even call me names like an alien. And so what we got to realize is like I now have four precious children and when you have four children, you learn parenting four different ways. But to give me a shot at reaching my full potential, no one knew what Nick couldn't do. And so instead of talking about the possibility, it was the conquering impossibilities with the probability of intentional failing along the way. And I I think that was my mom's embrace and mindset which then bled to my mindset as well. We don't know what we can't do till we try.

Dr. Danny Huerta: Yeah, Nick, this is so important. You know, the attitude piece, you speak about it in your book, Life Without Limits and we see it in the movie that there's a certain attitude that is instilled in you and your mom, you're just talking about that that your mom had had a certain attitude towards life and speak to that. Let's talk about that for a moment. Why is attitude so important for a child's development from an early age? Attitude meaning my perspective or my perception about the what's in front of me. Whether it's a positive attitude or negative attitude, what difference does that make in the perception of what's in front of you?

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, look I could go in any way direction and shape or form on on that response but there's four main points that I would bring up. Number one is you can't spoon feed your child to the point where you're making their decisions every day. They have to actually come to an honest reality and a maturity and conception of their own thoughts, of their own convictions by the Holy Spirit. But you can lead them to the truth. And so my parents first and foremost led me to the truth of the truth of my value that it doesn't matter what the world says.

I'm beautiful just the way that I am. And they were persistent farmers. They were planting seeds in me every single day saying you're beautiful, you're beautiful. God's God's got you. He's got a plan for you. You're special. And even though I hated those words that I'm special, like I didn't want to be special, I needed those seeds. My parents didn't know what seeds would take root and grow and multiply but their job was to do their best in leading me to the truth by helping me find my own conviction and walk with God even letting me go through hard times that I even hid from them actually.

I attempted suicide and depression at age 10. So they were persistent. Number two, I think it was the attitude of gratitude that really taught me how to be thankful for what I have instead of being angry for what I don't have. If you give your kid everything they want, when they want, how they want it, they're never going to be thankful for anything. Uh they actually didn't buy me many toys. I actually vacuumed the floor. I figured out how to make money in the home to then save up money to then buy my own toy.

When you force your child to buy their own toys, that attitude of gratitude, you're immediately thankful more for what you have if you have to work for it. Uh third thing was there's no limit, Nick. Just go, dream big. And they told me Nick, you need to be a millionaire as quick as possible because no one's going to employ you. I think the third thing is being real with them. Because they loved me, they needed to be real with me. And at age eight, my dad said no one's going to employ you. You're not going to get a job.

You need to start a business and become the employer. And then number four, just never give up. Never give up. You know, their own stories of them that they told us they had no food on the table as refugees fleeing communism regime from Yugoslavia. What incredible foundations of faith, attitude of gratitude, hard work, and just dreaming big. That was my childhood.

Rebecca St. James: The inspiration components just being around you, Nick, are so amazing. And I was going to ask you a question about self pity but he just pretty much answered it. How did you not you know be overwhelmed in that with the bullying and with just the the challenges that were in front of you all the time but I I'd like to just have you share about your faith. Like when did you really encounter Jesus for you personally because you obviously had this very vibrant faith from really young.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, look I actually had a bitter hatred towards because of my lack of understanding towards God. Where is where is he? What's the plan? I don't understand it. Why does he let my bullies have arms and legs? They don't deserve their arms and legs. Why do I deserve what how did this happen? At age 13 was my first turning point when attitude of gratitude was a reality when I hurt my little foot playing soccer. And I couldn't walk for 3 weeks. And it was the greatest thing because I obviously was now thankful for the little foot.

At age 15 though, it was a Sunday morning reading John chapter 9. A man was born blind. No one knew why. And Jesus said it was done so that the works of God would be revealed through him. Jesus heals the man. And what I realized was the blind man didn't say what's the plan. With no warning, there was no conversation. There was no hey, this is what's going to happen. I think my biggest disability was my unbelief. And not to say that God always heals you physically. He doesn't because if he did, we'd never die.

We'd never go to heaven. Christians die. Okay, news flash. Christians die. Not 1 minute later or sooner than God wants but we can pray for stuff like I have I'm now in Texas. So I have a a pair of cowboy boots in case God gives me arms and legs, a pair of running shoes, a pair of dancing shoes. Um and you can pray for miracles but the greatest miracle of all is being saved, your mind renewed, and your heart being healed. And so in John chapter 9 I realized oh wow, I don't need to know the plan.

In fact, if I did have the plan, then I don't need faith. But because I just need to believe that he does have the plan, that's the whole revelation on this side of heaven. It's the the question do you trust me? Do you trust me that I can even take your broken pieces and do something beautiful? Do you trust me that when you don't even get a miracle that you can still be one? And that was the turning point for me at age 15.

Dr. Danny Huerta: And so there are a lot of conversations that happen uh between 0 and 15 with your parents who are very intentional and deliberate with you. And you went through that pretty quickly when you said your parents instilled in you a value, a certain value, perception that you had value in this life and I know you wrestled through that. We'll get to that in a moment. What conversations did you have with them that instilled a core value that you were able to come back to in those moments of questioning? What did they say to you?

Nick Vujicic: You know, it wasn't really creatively coming up with different things. It was just that that persistence of being there, loving, caring, trying different things with me and my siblings. I think it was just persistent love that really helped me conquer just day by day battles. And my dad gave me like things to talk about about my future that had nothing to do with my struggle but about opportunity. And so when you actually see that obstacles are opportunities where he's like okay, look you have no limbs but God gave you a brain. Use your brain. And so he pushed me in math, he pushed me in chess, uh he introduced me to the stock market at age 16.

I bought my first home by age 19. I did accounting and financial planning by age 21 in college, a double major. When I asked him hey, I I I'm going to America, he said go for it. My mom said no. My dad said go. And obviously they had their you know own little worries but I was 22 when I left my home, everything that I knew. Had a couple incredible relatives, Uncle Barto, my mentor in California. He's also in the film. And uh he said yeah, man, if you want to reach the world for Jesus, you can't do that from Australia.

And so they gave me opportunities to see when I saw the struggles, they're like no no no, be thankful. Here's the opportunity.

Rebecca St. James: I heard somebody say recently to me that behavior is a language and I feel like your parents not just in words but in their behavior and their actions, they were speaking their belief over and over and over and over again in your life. Like and you see it in the movie that was just we believe in the power of God. We believe in you. And I just I love that. You just see it. You see it so beautifully in the film and I encourage everybody to to see it.

Dr. Danny Huerta: And Nick, something something we talk about often on the show is the seven traits of effective parenting. And your parents embody that. So it begins with adaptability, adapting to what's there, allowing for the reality to be there, adapting to it. Then respect is adjusting your emotions to that place. So you enter into the invitation where God has you. Then intentionality pointing uh the relationship, the parenting in a certain direction and following Jesus's lead and then a steadfast love and you mention that, this this persistent love from your parents that no matter what they love you and they showed that.

And then boundaries and limits, talking about those as parents, what what do you need to have in order for you to grow well to who God created you to be and then grace and forgiveness is this grace that they exude as parents and then gratitude, ending with gratitude that makes you more adaptive and full of grit as you face what comes at you as parents. And so they embodied that. I saw that in the film and then you've reinforced that with what you talked about as the core, this persistent love that we can bring as parents.

And uh we've seen that with with your parents. Now I just want to ask you on the when you went to school for the first time and and then had several struggles in school, how did you wrestle through that in your mind? I know emotionally as a young boy and then a young man it it can begin to counter the the messages your parents had given you and you begin to wrestle with both messages coming at you. How did you do that in your mind?

Rebecca St. James: With the bullying especially, yeah.

Nick Vujicic: Yeah, look and it wasn't even just the verbal. It was also the looks and the attention and it just was unwanted. I didn't desire any of it. I didn't want to go to school but they knew that this is just going to have to be part of his strengthening years where you have to go through it to grow through it because I'm always going to be looked at uh no matter where I go in the world, whenever I go. And I had to accept it. And it was difficult to accept that I had to go to school, difficult to accept that no one would ever understand me, difficult to accept that I'll never probably have answers.

But what I think was the most depth of despair in the valleys, if I could put a definition on it was the fear of the future that I'll always be alone. I'll always be a burden and I'll always be bullied. And so when when someone says something or looks at you for a second or says something in three seconds, when you go home, you can put a brave face on there. But when you go home and you go in your room where no one's looking, the devil just repeats that audio track. You're not good enough.

You're not good enough. You're ugly. You're ugly. You'll never be happy. You'll never get married. And your song Wait For Me as well, Rebecca, was an added inspiration back then that if there was a partner out there for me that God he just gave me a sense of hope and all that. But back then when I was a kid, you're like wait a second, dude, I can't even hold my wife's hand. Even if I had kids, I can't even hold my kids when they're crying. So I felt like there would never be a point in my life where I'd be happy.

And I think that's where despair comes in, isolation comes in, and just the loneliness I think is the root of all of that.

Rebecca St. James: Well, in the film you so beautifully speak to how God brought you out of that and it was even you know considering the impact on your family and how devastated they would be by your loss and and knowing how loved you were and the community that you had around you that just loved you to bits. Um how that gave you hope and and even deep down just knowing you had a mission, you had a unique calling on your life for the future. Can you speak to how it is even now, Nick, having seen and four children.

Like do you just have moments where you still pinch yourself just going what? My life, it's real. Like the promises that he put in my heart back there. He brought me from despair to so much hope and joy. Like can you just speak to the season you're in cuz you've just got to pinch yourself sometimes going wow.

Nick Vujicic: It is. It's so beautiful and yes, I do. You know, at 19 years old knowing that I was called to the nations as a single dude giving away money to orphans and buying washes and medical stuff. My number one big dream was one day get married, have kids and bring them to Africa cuz Africa changed my life. And I want to change the world for Jesus. That just that was a a dream since 19 years of age. That just happened in May. And so when we're there, you know and I'm looking at my kids and they're with children who don't have any running water, half naked, you know, and seeing my kids buy groceries for them with their own money.

Rebecca St. James: Wow.

Nick Vujicic: You know, like it's just unbelievable. My wife is a saint. She and I are one team. And it's not just going through the difficulties of life as you know when you stand in front of the gates of hell and you redirect traffic, it gets hot a little bit and there's some spiritual warfare that happens. Uh and that refining in the fire fuses you and galvanizes your marriage even stronger. And she's just had to hold me longer. These last seven years we've gone through a lot. And you know, you just got to keep on going and ride the waves together no matter what comes.

And so it it has been an incredible joy. I don't need to hold my wife's hand. I need to hold her heart and you don't need arms and legs for that. And the kids, you know, like Kiyoshi, my oldest one, he's now 13. He's like 5 ft 7 already. He didn't get my height. And when he was seven years old, uh he said Daddy, I wish you had arms. I said why? He said I wish I knew how it was to be held by you and uh you know to be hugged by you. He said but don't worry, I'm just going to hug you longer and stronger so you can feel my hug.

And so it's amazing. And you know, he he and my other three children, whatever God has for them, you just want as a parent to do everything you can to give them that opportunity and fix their eyes on Jesus. And so I'm so glad that we're in Texas. So glad that my wife's family's here in Texas. Yeah, look dreams come true. We actually did a book called Love Without Limits for anyone who doesn't believe in true love anymore or doubts that God has a partner for you. Not saying that everyone gets married but we did write a book together on love, Love Without Limits.

And I think moving forward there's going to be a lot less traveling for me. Um I'm going into production. We're doing an animation uh for kids and um different things along the way. But I'll still preach the gospel through Nick V Ministries. Uh we preach gospel now to over a billion people live streaming uh and television broadcasts and uh yeah, just to share all that joy is just beautiful.

Rebecca St. James: Well, I just think it's so incredible what God's done in your life and then I don't know. It just as a friend and somebody who's known you for a long time just applaud you as a man. Just the great decisions that you've made in your life and you speak to a lot. You're so honest and you're so authentic that life isn't easy. And gosh, you know that more than anyone. But I I I wanted just zone in a little bit on your parenting cuz there's got to be moments in your parenting where you go man, my life has been very challenging.

I look at my kids that probably have it easier. How are you installing these same values of hard work, grit, pressing in on the challenges when they've probably had it so much easier than you ever did, right? How has that been? Has that been a challenge to speak to them about grit when they're probably I don't know had it so different than you or not?

Nick Vujicic: First and foremost, I think it's a wonderful blessing to have a disabled person in the home. Yep. Because without words, you already know a lot. You learn a lot. Uh you see a lot. And you're thankful a lot more. And you're willing to help a lot more. And then when they see their disabled dad work hard, make money, give away money. I never had to sit my son Kiyoshi down and say you need to make money, you need to you know do this and give it away. How you emanate your life in the home. I can't expect my children to have literacy in the Bible unless I have it and read the Bible unless I read the Bible and be generous unless I'm generous and to show it and to show kindness and forgiveness and patience and grace.

I'm far far far far from perfect. My wife knows it. My kids know it really well. But to see intentional striving of being their friend and having conversations with them. My struggle is my struggle for me being focusing in on that direct question because I was born without limbs. Many people think that's a bad thing. It is a bad thing. But there's 106 other ways in how the human being can suffer. And brokenness is brokenness and fear is fear and loneliness is loneliness. So it doesn't matter what your struggle is. It's the thought and the feelings behind it which they're in.

You need to force to accept it by the grace of God, give it to him by the grace of God, and trust in him by his grace. And so no matter what that struggle looks like, whether their own struggles or whatever, and he's they're flourishing in how God's called them. So one son is pretty wealthy for his age. He's got three companies. He's he just bought in furniture that he's like selling. Like they were just they came in the door and they're selling furniture. I mean I don't know another 13 year old who has more money than him at all.

He makes every dollar of it and gives away 30% to homeless veterans. I never had to tell him that but we go and expose them to need out there. And God speaks to them, right? And so then my son, my other son, he's the preacher. He can't go to bed without reading the Bible every single day. When we go around the world and we don't there's countries where they don't speak English, he's just playing with everyone. He's social. So you just got to be focusing on each individual child in the way that God's created them best.

And and you help them as much as you can. Nick, that's a key point and I think we forget that as parents many times uh just the the fact that we need to get to know each of the children in our home and uh and adjust to that. And that's we do talk about that often on the show that Yes.

Dr. Danny Huerta: I've got to tell you something that really helped us on that.

Nick Vujicic: Yes, let's let's hear. We do an annual vision board and we check in on it every 12 weeks. And so there's there's six areas of life, faith, family, friends, fitness, finance, fun. And when you actually give them an opportunity to share what you I thought you know this was their highlight. I thought this is what they enjoyed but actually having a a tone of conversation on that and how that all encompasses their life as well has really helped us to just have that communication is key.

Dr. Danny Huerta: Yeah, boy, yeah, very practical. So it's faith, family, friends, fitness, finances, and fun. And uh a lot of apps there. That good job. Good job. That's good. Very practical to to check in on those and to talk about them individually. Just as we're talking here towards the end, uh Psalm 143 verse 4 comes to mind and I just love this entire Psalm but it says therefore my spirit faints within me, my heart within me is appalled. And you talked about that, just that that wrestling with things inside and the bitterness. And then uh in in verse eight it says let me hear in the morning of your steadfast love for in you I trust.

Make me know the way I should go for to you I lift up my soul. Teach me to do your will for you are my God. Let your good spirit lead me on level ground. And so as you're talking about all of this, it's it really centers on relationship, relationship with God. You talked about your parents working together as a team as they faced a monumental thing that was unexpected but they joined together as a team and you said that you need to model a relationship with Christ that is trusting. And within that, your parents have taught you some tremendous things as a young man that now you're imparting to your own kids.

And so we need to never forget as parents that what we invest in with our kids doesn't just stop with our kids many times. It goes into their lives and it it goes on for generations. So there's a momentum of the spirit that we get to participate and we're invited into in this beautiful relationship, the parent-child relationship. It's truly an invitation. It can have challenges beyond what we thought we were capable of facing. And yet when we join together as a team, when we when we step into that trusting relationship with God, it begins to transform us.

That's what this show's about. It's about not being perfect but it it's about the transformation we're on as we step into what parenting has in front of us.

Rebecca St. James: As we closed out, Nick, is there just anything else on your heart that you feel that you'd like to share with parents just to encourage them or a a tip something you and can I have have learned? What what's your parting parting thoughts?

Nick Vujicic: You know, my parting thoughts would be that um more often than not, whatever you want your children to hear from you, receive it, and and believe, be patient cuz God needs to speak to them but keep planting those seeds and be persistent. And the biggest thing is their soul, their own walk with God. And so for as long as they're in your house, it's your rules. And so I would ask people to ask God for wisdom in how to do that but also sharing multiple stories, examples. We have so many inspirational stories out there and I'm just one of billions but I think what people relate to is the brokenheartedness, the loneliness, and the fear of the future.

And the truth of their value is something that they always need. They'll hear something from you but if you bring them to this movie, you can say look at what God did with Nick. Look, he could have given up. Look, he could have just thought that's it. I'm going to give up. I'm ugly. I'll never be happy. But look at what God did with Nick. If God can use a man without arms and legs to be his hands and feet, then God can use you too.

Rebecca St. James: Oh wow, what a quote.

Dr. Danny Huerta: Wow, that that's

Nick Vujicic: So awesome. That's a great landing right there. Love it. Love it. Wow.

Dr. Danny Huerta: It sure is. It sure is. Well, next movie, No Limbs, No Limits, the Nick V story is something that we highly recommend that you take your entire family to see and we encourage you to dive even deeper into Nick's testimony by ordering his book, Life Without Limits, Inspiration for a ridiculously good life. I love that. I love that. And we're making it available to you for a gift of any amount to focus on the family. And this is such an entertaining read uh just like his movie. Um it's a wonderful wonderful book. It's something that you can give as gifts to those who might be struggling with their own challenges as well.

Yeah, and one thing we didn't talk about is Nick's sense of humor. You can see it in the movie. You can read it in the book. Nick, you bring a sense of humor. That is an important piece as we're going through difficult times. Don't forget to laugh as a family even when there are hard times. Stop and laugh with each other, notice those things around you. God has given us that opportunity to laugh with each other, enjoy, have some fun as a family today. I love that God's purpose for each of us is not limited by our circumstances, our weaknesses, or the things standing in our way.

Everything that Nick represents is a reminder to parents, to us as parents that our heavenly Father has entrusted our children to us to care for them, to love on them, to guide them towards a thriving faith in him. We just need to stay faithful and look toward his larger plan for their lives. And he has a big one for each of our kids' lives and he's had a big one for Nick. Nick, thank you so much for sharing uh your testimony. And uh man, this is going to be powerful not only for the listeners here but listeners, be sure to share this story with your friends, your family, those you know cuz they need to hear Nick's powerful story.

Nick, thanks again for being on Practice Makes Parent with us.

Rebecca St. James: Thank you, Nick.

Nick Vujicic: No worries. Love you guys so much and so glad that we got uh for King and Country, that song You Are a Miracle, an incredible beautiful song that I want everyone who's listening to know God loves you. He's with you. He's going to pull you through it. Keep going.

Rebecca St. James: Absolutely.

Nick Vujicic: All right. Until next time, I'm Dr. Danny Huerta.

Dr. Danny Huerta: And I'm Rebecca St. James. Join us next time for more tips for transforming your parenting on Practice Makes Parent.

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