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Voiceover: Nathan is going to step out on a precipice. In the scene in the script, it is written that this scene is when Christian walks out on the thing, an eagle flies by. Nathan steps out on this precipice, and a golden eagle comes up from way down in the trees. It flies up and begins to just circle and fly around him and around the crew. It was absolutely electric.

Female Host: It is time for the keynote interview, and joining Kevin Sorbo will be Natalie Jones and Nathan Todd Sims, a filmmaker, founder of Fusion-Flicks Entertainment, and producer of Parent Compass and the Miracle on the Precipice film.

Male Host: Todd has his own production company. It's called Fusion-Flicks Entertainment. He founded this with his wife, Gina, 30 years ago, and their children are also involved. Naomi, who is a producer, and Tiffany are both here. Todd has over 350 producing credits, a previous feature film, 11 TV series, and he's winner of 17 Telly Awards.

Those are secular awards judged by the industry. His projects include a miniseries for the Discovery Channel called NASA Space Mistakes and the documentary The Harbinger Decoded, seen by millions. Todd is also an ordained minister, and importantly for us, Todd is producer of all seven seasons of the Parent Compass family episodes, and now the feature film Miracle on the Precipice.

Female Host: And you may have heard we have a gentleman by the name of Kevin Sorbo here with us tonight, and you're going to be hearing from him. Kevin is an actor. He's a director and producer now for over 35 years. He's an author, a speaker, a family man, and also a powerful Christian voice in the film industry and the nation. He was born in Mound, Minnesota, and you may not know this, but Kevin is 100% Norwegian, and he's very proud of his Viking heritage.

Male Host: You may know that he is renowned for his role as Hercules in the seven-year series Hercules: The Legendary Journeys from 1993 to 2000. Hercules, by the way, became the most-watched television show in the world at that time, with over 100 million viewers globally.

Now transitioning into faith-based cinema, Kevin and his wife, Sam, who, by the way, he met on the set of Hercules, have dedicated their careers to producing and starring in films that champion Christian values and family unity. They have three children, Braeden, Shane, and Octavia.

Female Host: Committed to instilling courage in the young man facing life-threatening trials, Kevin Sorbo plays the park ranger in the upcoming Parent Compass feature film, Nathan Todd Sims's feature film, Miracle on the Precipice. Let's watch this video clip of Kevin in action.

Movie Clip 1: When a 12-year-old watches his mother die of cancer, it's only natural to beg God for her life. And he'll promise anything to his make-believe grandfather in the sky, including to love and worship him forever if only he will spare her. Sometimes the answer is no. Tell that to me the day you lose someone you love.

She died believing a lie. She died believing that someone out there loved her even while he was strangling her to death. A God who would allow that is not worth believing in.

Movie Clip 2: Rather than being vindictive, I just chalk my son's death up to bad luck. Maybe a quirk of genetics, a bad roll of the cosmic dice. With the help of some fairly effective chemicals and a healthy dollop of vodka, I can somehow make it through the night without blowing my brains out because I accept that's just the luck of the draw.

But don't you dare tell me about the love and the compassion of your so-called God. Because if he felt like sacrificing his only begotten son, that's his business. But he should have kept his hands off of mine.

Movie Clip 3: Why couldn't you have done this 30 years ago? 20 years ago, when I was still an honest man before I became a tin-horn huckster and a defiler of widowhood? Why couldn't you have done this in Oklahoma where, for the first time in my life, I believed every lie I told?

Why'd you have to let me sink so low, Lord, then just dangle it right in front of my face? Let me be one or the other. A crook or a righteous geologist of all matters petroliferous who struck it rich. Do you think this is funny? I know funny, Lord, and this is not funny.

Movie Clip 4: Hey there, kiddo. How are you holding up? Pretty good, thanks to you. I guess I ruined your surf shirt. I never liked that one anyway. I want you to just concentrate on getting better, okay? Thank you. You were amazing out there. You're the one who kept me calm. You never let go. You are incredibly brave, Bethany.

Movie Clip 5: Where were you, Daddy? If you must know, I was having an argument with an angel. Did he have wings? No, he had greased-stained coveralls. What? He's a mechanic. He had bad breath and a nine-dollar haircut. This angel, what did he say to you?

We both agree on Ben Walker, but I'm not your Ben Walker. More specifically, I'm not your husband, and I'm not their father. Is Daddy having a nervous breakdown? You're all very sweet in your own parallel universe, in a wonderful life sort of way, and if I had to choose a family to be my make-believe family, it would be you.

Movie Clip 6: I remember that we had this picture of Jesus that we hung at home. It was up there for forever, and it said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock." I never knew what it meant, but I do now. He's knocking at your door right now. You don't have to meet him halfway. You just have to open the door.

Movie Clip 7: The boy finds God, and he is elected to the American Congress. Well, you have to be 12, and you go through membership and confirmation class. I know, sir, but it has to be now. I read the book, and I want to be like that man. Ronald Wilson Reagan, I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Natalie Jones: I was thinking, since you were a demigod and everything, that maybe you shouldn't have him at a Christian event. Is there hope for demigods?

Kevin Sorbo: It was a mythological show, but I've got to tell you something. The writers back then, they actually put very good moral values in Hercules. We had a lot of humor in it, but if you watched the show, there were a lot of good moral values. I think if they did it today, it probably wouldn't be quite the same.

Natalie Jones: That's right. We are glad you flew in here on eagle's wings for us tonight, Kevin. One of the things that I didn't know that much about you is that you've had quite the wilderness journey. Did you have a family of faith growing up?

Kevin Sorbo: Big time. Typical Norwegian boy, grew up in a Lutheran church, St. John's Lutheran Church. I'm the fourth of five kids. Four boys, my sister's in the middle. I grew up in a little town about 30 miles west of Minneapolis, Mound, Minnesota. It's on the western shores of Lake Minnetonka. My home was the home to Tonka Toys. So there's your trivia question right there.

It was church every Sunday. My mom did a lot of Bible readings with all of us. So it's always been in my structure. I think the biggest influence for me was when I was 13 years old. We had a youth pastor that came in, Pastor Lee. He had a place called "The Room" at my church. Every Wednesday, year-round, from eight to ten, it was seventh grade through twelfth graders.

We had beat-up couches, bean bag chairs. We had a ping pong table. He brought the Bible for me and my other buddies in my class. He brought the Bible more into our world. Our main pastor, Pastor Sanda, scared the hell out of me, which is good to get the hell scared out of you. Breathing was a sin with this guy. I remember as a child I told my parents, "I just don't think God's that angry with us. I think he loves us." Pastor Lee was huge.

Another thing happened that summer when I was 13. The Reverend Billy Graham came to speak at the St. Paul Fairgrounds. It was a hot August night. Minnesota gets very hot and humid in the summers. There was a full moon. There were 250,000 people outside at the fairgrounds. Something I normally wouldn't have done, he called everybody if you want, "We've got a lot of volunteers, please come up if you want to talk, pray, whatever." I started going up. One of my buddies asked, "Where are you going?" I said, "I don't know, I've just got to go up there."

I'm sitting on the ground talking to this guy. He was like 35, so he was really old to me. We were just talking. All of a sudden, a hand went on my head. I turned around, and it was the Reverend Billy Graham. His head was perfectly behind the full moon, so there was light coming out. It was kind of like those paintings of Jesus always have the light around his head.

We talked about sports, and we talked about school. Then he prayed for me, and that was huge. I told that story on the Larry King Show. Larry Ross, who's based out of the Dallas-Fort Worth area and does a lot of publicity for the Graham family, called me up and said they were doing a Chicken Soup for the Soul book for the Reverend.

It was the only time they ever did a hardcover book. They asked me if I would tell my story. So I'm in there with Mother Teresa and the presidents. I was a 13-year-old kid in the story years later. Then they invited me to do the publicity on the book for them. So they traveled me around the country doing the publicity, which was pretty cool.

Natalie Jones: You moved into the godly realm from there. But in your book, True Strength, you go from demigod to mere mortal, and how nearly dying saved your life. Seriously, wow. I thought you were Hercules.

Kevin Sorbo: No. It was the end of season five on Hercules. I was having all kinds of problems with my left arm, and I couldn't figure out what was going on. I was doing most of my own stunts because my ego said that I could, and I enjoyed it. I was a jock playing football and basketball through high school and college. I wanted to do it. My stunt guys made me look good.

I was always getting cuts and sprains and bruises, but this one was really weird. I came back at the end of season five to do publicity on my first big-budget movie called Kull the Conqueror. Kull was the prequel to Conan the Barbarian. In the books, Kull is the father of Conan. Arnold Schwarzenegger played Conan. He's older than me, but I'm apparently his father. I look at that as common core math.

I'm on Letterman and all these talk shows, and my arm was falling apart. It was on fire. They sent a doctor to my hotel room in Boston. His name was Doctor Dye. Dye. I know, but change your name. Take your mother's maiden name, you're a doctor. He said he thought it was cardiovascular.

I went to check it out. They found a lump way up here in my left subclavian. My doctor back in LA said we've got to check this out, maybe do a biopsy. Next morning, I go to see my chiropractor. For eight years, I've seen this chiropractor. He's never cracked my neck. I don't like my neck cracked. Leave my neck alone.

I'm laying on the table. He's working on me. I hear a voice inside my head say, "Don't let him crack your neck," which I thought was weird. He's never cracked my neck in eight years. "Don't let him crack your neck," louder. While I'm arguing with the voice, he unwittingly did the thing. He cracked my neck. I suffered three strokes.

I had an aneurysm that had been spitting blood clots from my left subclavian down into my arm, suffocating the flow of blood into my hands and fingers, which were always cold and numb. But that crack caused what doctors call retrograde flow because of the location of the aneurysm. It took me four months to learn how to walk and balance again. It took me three years to fully recover from it.

I had a lot of battles with God, I've got to tell you, because of the "why me" syndrome. But my wife, we were four months away from our marriage at that time, and I was going to actually call off the wedding. I said, "I don't know where I'm going to be. You're getting the worst part first before we even said 'for better or worse,' and I don't want to put her in that situation." She stuck by my side.

One doctor, the head of neurology at USC Medical Center in Los Angeles, said to me, "Don't ever put your life on hold." I say that to all of you here because we do. We always kind of forget to do things, or we just bypass things, or we don't pay attention to our kids or grandkids. Take a minute. I learned a lot from that. I actually gained a lot of patience.

But God, I ultimately knew that I wrestled with God. Don't wrestle with God; you're going to lose. But I realized the voice was his and he was trying to stop that from happening. But he opened a whole new door for me in the way I was looking at things because I've always had faith, but I never needed faith until I was hit with this. I'm telling you, I've always had it, but this was the first time I was ever put to the test.

I felt like the old me had died, and now I had to find a new path and a new door to go through. I wrote the book. I didn't want to write the book; my wife made me write it. She wrote a few chapters as well. She says that they're the best chapters; they probably are. I wrote it, and it came out about 13 years ago. Initially, people asked me to speak, but as motivational speaking.

I remember speaking to a group of 1,600 neurologists in San Diego, and I said, "There's a reason what they call what you guys do a 'practice'." Half of them laughed; the other half didn't. But then people read the book. "Oh, he's a Christian. Will you come speak at our church? Oh, you're pro-life." So most of my speaking is really pro-life right now. That's pretty much what I do.

Roughly 65 million lives we've snuffed out since Roe v. Wade. It's murder. I don't care. There's a heartbeat in 22 days. Don't tell me it's not a life. This "my body, my choice" thing drives me crazy. I tell women, "If it was your body, you'd be dead too." It's not your body. It's a body that you're hosting inside of you. But anyway, I get off on a tangent on that. Sorry.

The book really is amazing what it's done because I've had people come up to me after they read it and say, "I stopped feeling sorry for myself." My wife was really... I've had a lot of miracles happen. Not only God, but the miracle of meeting my wife, Sam, because she was huge and instrumental in my growth. Every time I got down, she said, "Kevin, it happened. What are you going to do about it?"

I'm very strong-willed, and I needed that support, not only from her but also from God and my family and friends. So it was huge for me to have that because I don't know how I would have survived without her constant nagging and just overwhelmingly optimistic point of view in life. It was huge for me. I'm grateful for that book because people walk up to me and say, "Your book has made me just be more positive about things."

Bad things happen. God never promises, Jesus never promises us an easy life. Bad things happen to all of us. We all have stories. Everybody's got... the book is about when you hit a roadblock, how do you react to that roadblock? Are you going to blame God? Are you going to blame the world, blame friends? Look in the mirror. I always say, "Cue the Michael Jackson song, 'Man in the Mirror'," because really, it starts with you and your attitude and what you're going to do because it's going to make you stronger if you don't be negative about it. Be positive about it.

I was told to look at my strokes as a gift, which was hard to look at. But I had to find a way to accept it as a gift. Kids are a gift. I wanted to abort this aneurysm, but I couldn't. So it was a long road, but I'm grateful for it. I'm glad the road that God has put me on now.

Natalie Jones: Switching gears here to Hollywood. You have said Hollywood likes to put out their own messages a lot of times, and the messages aren't the best for everyone. That's a very nice way to put that. But what do you mean there?

Kevin Sorbo: You see the Hollywood agenda. Every movie has an agenda. Every movie does. Every movie's a faith-based movie. If you believe in nothing, that's an incredibly strong faith. I feel sorry for people like that. I've got atheist friends, and I say, "You know, if I'm wrong, I've lost nothing. But if I'm right, see you later." That's the way I look at it.

Hollywood's agenda has changed so much. It really kind of started happening in the '60s where they started celebrating the anti-hero. It wasn't the hero anymore; it wasn't the John Wayne days and things like that. But that's when it started. That's when they didn't have a rating system until the '60s. That was born because movies were getting more violent.

I got to a point where I said, "This is ridiculous what's going on right now in the movies that they're making, the movies they're doing." I got called in about 12 years ago. I'm the first cancel culture victim before I knew it was a term. My managers on one side of the hill, they're in Beverly Hills; my agents in Beverly Hills. They never crossed that hill because it's always a pain in the butt; it's going to take an hour to get over there with the traffic.

They call me in, and they're both in the same office. I said, "What's going on? Is this an intervention?" They said, "The studios don't want to work with you anymore." This was a dozen years ago. I said, "Well, why?" "Well, the things you post, you're Christian, conservative." I said, "But I always have been." They go, "Yeah, but the winds are changing." I said, "Oh, they don't want to hear the truth. Okay. I understand."

They booted me out. So I had no choice. I love the industry. You love the industry. We love what we do. I don't care what side of the camera you're on within the industry of making movies and TV shows. Anybody that does this business, you can't say, "Oh, I just kind of fell into it." No, you do it because you love it and you want to be part of it.

So my wife and I, we formed Sorbo Studios. We've been doing our own thing. We've been blessed to raise money. It's not easy raising money on these movies, but we've been very lucky. Every time I've raised money for a movie that I'm directing, it's been a God thing. Other indies, like what Todd's doing and other independent people, come to me. So I'm very blessed. The last 12 or 13 years, I do about four movies a year and documentaries as well. I've been very lucky to be part of that. So we're grateful for another road. Once again, the door shut; God opened another door.

It started with me with What If.... What If... is my first... you saw a little trailer for that with the dinner table with my wife and kids. It's an alternate universe I end up in and realize I'm married with two kids. What If... was written by the same writers that did God's Not Dead. What If... came out two years earlier. Who saw God's Not Dead? Pretty good movie. Thank you.

That $2 million budget movie made $140 million. That doesn't happen. That is like the same baseball team getting two grand slams in one inning. It's very, very rare that a movie that's low budget with very little advertising... it came from people like you giving it word of mouth. That's what really helped. What If... in my book, much better movie. Much better movie. It did okay. It was my first Pure Flix movie as well. Dallas Jenkins directed it. You've heard of him. He even says it's the best movie he's ever done.

Natalie Jones: There's an onslaught out there on media for the family. What is the biggest battle, and how do families combat it?

Kevin Sorbo: Here's the thing. Hollywood... Andrew Breitbart was a friend, and he said politics runs downstream from culture. Maybe somebody said it before him, but that's the first time I heard it. Who runs the culture? Hollywood does.

The bubble of Hollywood and the bubble of the Democrats in Washington, D.C., have such a huge influence in the mainstream media over what's been going on. The public school system has been deteriorating since we took the Bible out of the schools in 1964.

Everybody was homeschooled before the late 1800s. Our founding fathers were homeschooled, and they were brilliant guys. We're homeschool advocates. My wife travels the country; we homeschooled all of our kids. I think one of the blessings of COVID is two million more families in America woke up when they saw how bad our education system is. There's always exceptions to the rules, I get it. But really, we were number one in the world through the '50s. We're 40th now. America, we're 40th in public education. We should be so proud.

We have to fight back. I'm glad to see a lot of people are leaving Netflix and places like that. They're waking up; they're finally waking up. Look, I did a movie called Let There Be Light that Sean Hannity funded. It's a wonderful movie that did very well in theaters, opened number two per-screen average against Thor: Ragnarok that opened that same weekend.

A $300 million movie with a $100 million advertising budget against a $2.3 million movie with a $1 million advertising budget by the grace of Dan Whitney, you know him as Larry the Cable Guy. He came in and gave me a million dollars to at least try to do some sort of way to get it in the theaters. It stayed in theaters for four months.

We opened number two. I get a call from Netflix on Monday morning after opening weekend. This was in 2018. "We want to open an inspirational division and have you run it." So I was excited. I had four meetings over four months with them. Ultimately, they did nothing. My last meeting, I said, "You guys called me in. There's 80 million homes that want the kind of movies that I'm doing. You are... you can scream socialism all you want, you are a capitalist industry. Let's not kid ourselves." So if anything, why not appease those 80 million nuts that you want to call the people who believe in God and make good movies?

I think they're waking up now. They're starting to tilt because they actually reached out to me about six months ago and asked me to send a couple of scripts to them. We'll see what happens. But it's amazing to me that the country's going through what it's going through right now, that we've got to fight. Parents need to be totally on top of what your kids are watching. The internet is the Wild West. I'll tell you, with this AI thing, it's only going to get worse because we're not going to be able to tell the difference between what's true and what's not. They can put anything out there right now.

Natalie Jones: Turning to Todd. Tell me your heart and why you ended up doing Parent Compass.

Nathan Todd Sims: Parent Compass, Natalie shows up at our office because of a mutual connection, and she says, "Hey, I want to do..." At the time, she said, "I want to do a show about families and parenting and all this kind of stuff." Gina and I, we were like, "We'll take this meeting, we'll see what happens," because we get approached a lot with a lot of different ideas.

When Natalie was there, she said, "I want to do a show that really demonstrates God and biblical parenting and what the Bible structure of the family is all about." Gina and I both were like, "Wait, what? Come on in, have a seat for a minute," because that's what really touched our hearts was being able to communicate just these powerful testimonial stories. That's how we developed the show and turned it into families sharing their faith.

Gina and I, when we first got married, we both come out of broken homes, did not come out of good, strong family backgrounds at all. But both of us... I got radically saved in high school. Gina got saved right at the end of high school. We were like, "We're not going to have kids. That's just a bad deal." I'm like, "We are like the worst possible parents on the planet."

But listening to a tape series from Pat Robertson, actually, he was saying if the people who love God stop having children and raising godly children, the world is going to be vacated of believers. I was like, "Okay, well, that's a little different perspective." So that's when we actually decided, "You know what? We're going to become parents."

So we were already... we had a strong commitment to family and our own family and really just looking to the Bible and seeking God about what it means to be a father and a mother. Certainly, we've not done it perfectly, and that's what I love about all of our Parent Compass families have been so humble and true and transparent and vulnerable when we do these interviews. It's amazing. But that's the main reason. So you came in, and it was impressive.

Natalie Jones: I remember going there thinking, "They do not want to talk to me. I just know it." Then I felt like it was a Holy Spirit meeting. One of the things we also talked about in that first meeting was the Lord had put on my heart just as strong as to do Parent Compass was to stop suicides, which I wouldn't say it that way, but that's how it was in prayer. That really resonated with you as well.

Nathan Todd Sims: Yeah, because that was a big part of my testimony. Like I said, I was raised in a very broken home. I was just a rebellious guy. I won't go into everything I was doing; it wasn't good stuff. I mean, even into occultic things that I was involved in. Then I got saved. I got radically saved. I met Jesus Christ, and he became real to me for the first time in my life. It transformed me in an instant, and I was a new person in him.

Praise God. The problem is nine months go by, and I am still living in a situation and trying to live and survive in the situation I was in. I became suicidal myself. I mean, not like attention-getting suicidal, but like true suicidal. I mean, I loaded a gun, I put the shotgun shells in my shotgun, I put the thing in my mouth, I put my hand on the trigger. We tall guys, we can reach those triggers even on rifles, on shotguns.

I was that close to pulling the trigger, and God just broke into my life at that moment. It's one of the most clear moments of my life, and God spoke to me and said, "If you decide to do this, come on home." He said, "But if you stay, I'm going to use you. I have a plan for your life." That radically changed everything for me. From that point forward, I was transformed. I was like, "I'm never looking back." It doesn't matter; I've just got to get out of the house, get out of high school, and move on. So now we've had wonderful families, and a lot of them know I'll get pretty emotional during those interviews because I know what it's like.

Natalie Jones: There were so many miracles with Miracle on the Precipice. Miracles before, miracles during, miracles that led up to filming. But what miracle happened on the very last day of filming after 11-hour plus days, six days a week for a month, which is how you film, which is not including drive time and planning. Something happened that last day.

Nathan Todd Sims: That was just amazing. As we got into that film, and I wanted to make a love letter to the Lord about just what he'd done in my life, we had that wonderful cast come together. Nathan Gamble's here tonight, who's our lead as well. Then Kevin came on board, which I was so blessed by.

So we were trudging at it. 85% of the film is outside. So we were trying to do the schedule, deal with weather, all these things. When we shoot a film, when we shoot Parent Compass, we do about 10 hours a day, not counting travel and prep. When we do a feature, we do about 12 hours a day plus travel, plus prep. So we are just driving hard.

20 days in a row, and we get down to the last day. We go up to the highest mountain, the highest top of the highest peak to do the final day of shooting, the final scene. Nathan walks out there. Nathan's going to step out on a precipice. In the scene in the script, it is written that this scene is when Christian walks out on the thing, an eagle flies by.

Nathan steps out on this precipice, and a golden eagle comes up from way down in the trees. It flies up and begins to just circle and fly around him and around the crew. It was absolutely electric. You just... obviously we were just going to use stock footage or something for that shot, but we've actually got Nathan in the shot with it, all that stuff happening. It was just one of those things where I felt like God was saying, "Hey, you done good. We're with you on that."

Natalie Jones: I love the part about that Todd had never seen an eagle in the wild before, and he'd been there that full month and hadn't even seen one then. And then it wasn't just any eagle. It was the second largest, a golden eagle, so it has more of the gold on the wings. But those have a six-to-eight-foot wingspan. It was a vast mountain range. That eagle could have gone anywhere.

Nathan Todd Sims: The odds of that happening, I don't even know how we'd calculate. I've been all over the world. I experienced an eagle in Liberia, Africa, that attacked our drone, but it was so far out in the bush I couldn't even see the eagle. The first time in my life, and you're right, not a single day, 20 days, not a single moment where we saw something like that.

Then this thing comes up. It was God. I know it was God. Even in the last six months as we've been working on everything, finishing and getting all the stuff marketing, I'll remember that, and it encourages me to keep going on.

Natalie Jones: Kevin, you've starred in a lot of movies. There are a dozen that suck; I didn't know they were going to suck. But you never co-starred with a golden eagle. What do you think about this eagle flying in?

Kevin Sorbo: I missed that. That was so cool. I actually did a fishing trip with ESPN up in Kodiak Island in Alaska. The bald eagles are flying around like robins there. You will just go crazy. It's unbelievable to watch them around. Unfortunately, Kodiak Island is correctly named. I saw 12 grizzlies in three days; I was a little nervous about that, but it was still pretty cool.

Natalie Jones: Now you have to tell us, Todd, what are some of these wonderful things happening with the film?

Nathan Todd Sims: Some very exciting things have happened. We've partnered with the Global Church Network. The Global Church Network has 700,000 churches in the network. 700,000 churches that represent 2,700 denominations and ministries worldwide. Their focus is fulfilling the Great Commission.

We were invited to screen the film in Athens, Greece, at a gathering of world leaders, church leaders from around the world across denominations. What happened at that screening was awesome. We got an incredible response to the film. We learned some things. It's always great to have a little pre-screening like that. We're making just a few tweaks to the film.

But out of that screening, we met Kathy Branzell, and Kathy Branzell is the president of the National Day of Prayer. You've heard of it. It's been instituted since 1952 by the U.S. Congress as a day of prayer. The National Day of Prayer Task Force helps organize prayer meetings all over the country.

Kathy came to us, and she was moved to tears by the film. She loved Kevin's performance. She said, "I want to go out there, I want to promote this film, I want to do everything we can." National Day of Prayer has a volunteer in every county in the United States of America. We are working with her to activate every one of those volunteers leading up to the release date.

So this is an amazing miracle, an amazing favor that has been shown on the film and on what we're trying to do. So it's very exciting. At this point, we're taking calls from distributors, and we're starting to try to figure all of that out and come up with a final date. We just don't have a date yet, but we're going to very soon.

Natalie Jones: And now we have testimonials from the Global Church Network, followed immediately by the trailer to Miracle on the Precipice.

Guest (Female): Miracle on the Precipice is a movie that I would recommend to not only families but to all people. It is that good.

Guest (Male): I'm Doctor Ben-Ester Chuk from Seattle. I am a co-vocational minister. The movie was awesome, wholesome. A movie that the whole family can watch.

Guest (Female): My name is Linda Foster with the Global Church Network. It was just fantastic. I was so impressed with it. It kept you right on the edge of your seat.

Guest (Female): My name is Becky Russell. I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. The movie was amazing. Oh my goodness, my heart... I was crying. The family unit needs a movie like this. The family unit needs to see, don't wait until tragedy brings yourselves together to bring yourselves to the Lord.

Guest (Male): My name is John Sweet. I'm with Haven of Hope International. Was absolutely delighted with the movie. It was a powerful family-oriented connection and the transformations that happened in the family as they went through all of the things that were happening in the movie.

Guest (Male): Hi, my name is Andrew Bender. I serve with the Church of God World Missions, the field director for Asia Pacific. What a great movie it is. I really, really not only enjoyed it, but it had a great message. The script was good. The actors were phenomenal.

Guest (Male): My name is Damir Patashke. I am from Montenegro, and I'm a pastor there. I was very impressed, very motivated. That movie is going to be a blessing for me and also for my youth in my generation.

Guest (Male): I'm Gordon Gamukant. I'm from Cameroon. I'm a missionary in Cameroon. I'm a church planter. As a father of a son myself, I feel all from that film all the encouragement that I need to motivate my son every day to make him feel that he's loved, that he's known, that he's appreciated. Because the father was counting on that son, that son could overcome his weakness. I like the film, that's why I wish you to watch the film also.

Guest (Male): I'm David. I'm from Long Island, New York. In our lives, we're going to face so many challenges. It's going to take as many different ways, and this movie kind of takes you into a journey where there is a miracle that's coming. That's what I loved about the movie.

Guest (Female): Great movie. If you get the chance to go see it, by all means, go see it. This movie had me at the edge of my seat. It was great.

Guest (Male): A powerful movie. It's filled with symbolism, and it's about family and it's about miracle as the title says. So 100% recommend it.

Guest (Male): The message that it sent was great. A message of hope and certainly that despite everything we go through in this world, that there's a faithful God. If we cry out to him, the Lord will come to our rescue. So I recommend this film. Go watch it when it comes out on the big screen and enjoy.

Guest (Male): Take this opportunity to share some thoughts regarding Miracle on the Precipice. It's an epic and exceptional picture in creativity and in communication. All of us from time to time in life will come to a precipice. It could be a personal precipice, professional, financial, material.

Some precipices come our way that we didn't cause; they come to us. We need divine intervention. We need a way to see through to the other side, and we need a divine miracle from God. And that's what Miracle on the Precipice is all about.

As a Global Church Network, we're thrilled to partner with Nathan Sims and his entire team in this beautiful release to communicate to God's community as well as the world at large that when you come to the point of despair, God meets you at that point of despair. I celebrate the release of Miracle on the Precipice, and I encourage you to be a part of this epic release throughout the United States and around the world. May God richly bless you today.

Voiceover: Some paths should never be walked alone. Some paths are just the beginning.

Movie Clip: What's your name, son? Christian. Don't touch me!

Movie Clip: Grace, we have hikers coming in back late all the time. He's even hurt.

Voiceover: The time for being afraid is over.

Movie Clip: Oh, Lord, help us. We've lost everything today. Jeremy? What are you doing here? I guess you're not here to rescue me, huh? We still have time to hike this trail, okay? Everybody in? Ready? Break!

Natalie Jones: What do you see as God's greater purpose for you and I and all of us?

Kevin Sorbo: I think involvement in the industry because Hollywood's winning the battle with their secular movies. I think the biggest killer, not only politically in America but also spiritually, is apathy. People just give up. Churches don't work together. There's too many churches that won't work with other churches. I keep saying, "Excuse me, is there a different God out there that I'm unaware of?"

There's one God. He said, "Let there be light." So we've got to fight the darkness of the evil that's coming out of Hollywood and not be afraid. It's in Proverbs; the only thing to fear is God himself. We need people to wake up and not let fear control your lives.

We need people willing to stand up and willing to be canceled. They took four million followers away from me on Facebook four years ago for speaking the truth, and very sarcastic on X. You can follow me on X. At least I'm up to two and a half million followers there at least, but it took me a long time to get back on Facebook. I just got back on there after four years. I'm starting from scratch. Where's my four million followers?

This is the craziness we have that one side gets to control so much of the narrative out there right now and cancel you for having faith, cancel you for having a different opinion than them. Charlie Kirk was a dear friend. I've known Charlie the last 10 years of his life. It still doesn't seem real to me what happened. But what came out is 80,000 new chapters of schools across this country want to continue Turning Point USA. So Charlie is still alive, well alive.

Natalie Jones: Why do you think the work of Parent Compass is important for fighting for children and families today?

Kevin Sorbo: Because you're showing true stories. You're showing true stories of miracles. I think miracles happen every day, and people just forget about it. It doesn't have to be walking on water, folks. Just be... I've got atheist friends and I say, "I know you don't want to pray, but do something called the grateful prayer."

And they go, "What's that?" The grateful prayer is you're stuck in traffic in LA, be grateful you've got a car. Be grateful you've got a pillow, be grateful the sun came out. Be grateful you've got a place to live. We're so caught up in the quickness of the world and the spontaneity of it all, and our attention spans have just gone downhill.

We just need to really go back and thank God. Talk to God like we're talking now. You don't have to put 'thees' and 'thous' in there. Just talk to the guy. Talk to Jesus. They'll listen to your prayers. It's not always going to be 'yes'. "God, give me the lottery numbers, please." It doesn't work that way.

But really, what you guys are doing is awesome because you're going to the real families and showing real things. People need to support what you're doing. They need to support the things that you're doing and hopefully support the things I'm doing. We need people to financially support; otherwise, Hollywood will win this battle.

They will. They're waking up, but they just don't seem to care. So what you're doing here is awesome. You just need people to keep going and keep showing true families going through true things in life and how they battle through the roadblocks that life gives to all of us.

Nathan Todd Sims: We're in a battle. There is an enemy, and the enemy is using everything in his power to sway everything in the world. Art and entertainment and cultural aspects are what... when you were talking about the cultural aspects, I'm like, that's why we're partly in the situation that we're in now is because Hollywood went all guns blazing starting back in the '60s and '70s and '80s and began influencing how we feel.

So not just about the movie, but about Parent Compass as well. Such a critical thing that is happening right here in this room with all of you. God continues to increase and to bless and to reach people with the power of this medium. So we're going to get the word out when the movie starts to come out. We're excited about finishing season seven as well. We've already done some on it, but we've got more to do on it. Kevin, thank you so much for everything you brought to the film. It's amazing stuff.

Kevin Sorbo: Really, it just comes down to the support of what we're all doing. We're able to reach millions and millions of people with these movies, but we can't reach them without the support of you people letting other people know that it exists, that it's out there.

You do exactly the opposite what Hollywood has done. If you look at sitcoms, every sitcom, you can go back '70s up until now, what do they do? The mom's a babe, the dad's kind of fat, out of shape, and the teenage kids use dad as a pincushion. They on purpose are denigrating fathers. They on purpose are saying you don't need families.

They do it, and it's on purpose. They're trying to destroy us. It's satanic what they're doing. The devil's doing a darn good job of pretending he doesn't exist, but he's out there and he's laughing the whole way right now.

What you guys are doing is the opposite. You're showing miracles within families. You're bringing joy and love. The biggest thing we need in this world right now is hope. That's what people need. That's what people are looking for. Thank you for being here. Appreciate it.