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Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Sekulow for Friday, April 24, 2026. We made it here, folks. It is Friday. Hopefully, you are starting to unwind a little bit and have a good weekend. The jacket came off today. I decided I'm going to do a little polo for you today. It is nice outside. It is beautiful weather. I had a school assembly I had to get to, but I'm here.

There is not a ton of news going on, everybody, but there is one piece of information I think you're going to find pretty interesting. A big report that came out from Axios. It's not necessarily the most shocking, except for the fact that we can now see that the wheels are already turning, the plans are already in motion, and that is for something we told you likely would come depending on how the midterms go. That is the push for another impeachment of President Trump on day one. That's what they say, and that's what this report is leading us all to believe.

Will: That's right. This is a group of House Democrats that have started to coalesce together, and they are putting forward not only just a plan to present an impeachment on day one, but they're trying to build a case and create the conditions. They're also talking about potentially holding shadow hearings so they can do all this impeachment work before they even have the majority.

Logan Sekulow: Shadow hearings meaning hearings that will go on preliminarily, but they won't be maybe informal.

Will: Right. So whereas you saw the impeachment hearings that happened in the House of Representatives, the very first impeachment, as we try to forget but have to remember back, that was related to Ukraine and those issues. They had those hearings in the various committees to present evidence, almost like leading towards an indictment. That is kind of the way you look at those types of hearings. Then they present it to the House floor for a vote, and that vote passed, which said you are now impeached. Then they sent that over to the Senate for the trial portion. That is what they're almost trying to get ahead of and hold these hearings—shadow hearings, they say—where I guess they'd be convening them outside of the Capitol. Maybe they are getting some paperwork ready.

Exactly. But they are trying to present witnesses and things of that nature in an informal way, not an official hearing because the majority would not have called those yet, but trying to get to a point where they can move as quickly as congressionally possible to send an impeachment to the Senate if they were to take the House back in November.

Logan Sekulow: Here is the truth. We know what they impeached President Trump on last time, specifically that first one. They have plenty of fodder if that qualifies. If that qualifies for impeachment, which of course was that phone call with Ukraine back years ago at this point, then I'm sure they can find a litany of options, plenty of things that they could say are impeachable.

You have currently the war in Iran, certainly something they are going to throw out there. There are plenty of things that if you have the votes, it doesn't even really matter if your beliefs really match up to what it is. If you have the votes, you're going to come up with a reason. That is the desperate side of politics today. I want to hear from you about this. Are you ready to go through another impeachment trial? Look, we know last time it was unsuccessful. Our team was involved in it. Unsuccessful meaning unsuccessful for the Democrats to fully remove President Trump from office.

But this time, you could have a very different lay of the land. As we know, though sometimes the end result is clear before it even begins, it does put a lot of pain on the American people. It puts a lot of pain on the federal government. They have to go through a lot of red tape. They have to go through all of the proceedings. Things slow down. It is not a fun process to be a part of, I can assure you.

Welcome back to Sekulow. A lot of you are just joining us right now. So what we're talking about is the report that came in through Axios that the House Democrats are already planning their first move. What do you think their first move is going to be if they are to come into power? That is to impeach President Trump. When? Day one. That's right. We know that a bunch of House Democrats are pushing their colleagues to at least start beginning the process of building the case, the impeachment case against President Trump.

It does feel like somewhat ancient history when we went through this twice, once while President Trump was in office and once while he wasn't. They are making it very clear that it is going to be. I'm very curious: Do you think it will be a campaign promise? Do you think it'll be something that they start rolling out here a little bit more openly and saying this is what we're going to do because they know it could rally their base?

Will: I think for a group of them, yes, it will. I think if they are doing some of this work, like having shadow hearings and things of that nature, they will be doing that not just for the benefit, I guess, of them having done work early, but also to use for campaign material and to push and show the people, look what we're doing. We're already fighting hard, trying to rally the base to lead towards a theoretical impeachment if they take the House.

Logan Sekulow: There is a call coming in about it. Maybe it'll help spur some more calls. Let's go to Warren on Line 1. Warren, go ahead.

Warren: Thanks for taking my call, guys. You know, we knew day one they talked about impeachment anyways, but it just goes to show that the Democrats and the left are doing nothing and have done nothing to better America or their constituents or anything except for oppose Trump and the Republicans at everything they've done.

Will: Warren, one thing I think that's so fascinating is I agree with what you're saying there about if this is all they have to run on. But in reality, they are pushing this. I think there's also on the conservative side a resignation to the fact that they're going to take the House. Now, that is normal. It is normal for two years in, the first midterm after an election, the pendulum swings. The opposing party takes control of the House of Representatives. There is that kind of pushback after the first two years of an administration.

But what's interesting here is how resigned it feels like many conservatives are. They are just like, I'm going to focus on my race, the swing districts, whatever. It is going to flip. The Senate will probably hold for the Republicans. That is not a guarantee. It does feel like there is a lot of deflation when it comes to the mood in Congress. Now, part of that has been the intra-party fighting that you've seen between the Senate and the House on the conservative side of them not even being able to get on the same page to get legislation passed or funding bills passed.

I think that has kind of taken down some of their motivation, some of their pep, for lack of a better term, when it comes to doing the job. So this resignation to the fact that they're going to lose the House makes it almost a guarantee that we're going to have to deal with this, which is ridiculous because we've seen how ridiculous it is.

Now, we know that impeachment is a political process, right? They can, in theory, impeach for anything if they get the votes. Then it gets sent and you have to convince the Senate that it is enough of a high crime and misdemeanor to convict and remove you from office. It takes more than just a simple majority in the Senate, which is a good thing. So will President Trump be removed from office from this impeachment? No. It's going to be a waste of time and money and everything to go through it.

Logan Sekulow: So again, the conclusion is already there that they don't have the votes for this to go beyond impeachment.

Will: Well, in theory, something could change. The Democrats would have to have a supermajority in the Senate or convince more than ten Republicans to remove the President from office. Something that has never happened. It is just two years. Like you said, why have they been calling it an illegal war since even before bombs started falling in Iran? They were talking about military seed planting. You can disobey illegal orders.

So it's either going to be on even though I feel like the news has moved on from the ICE story. I think that was their first plan, to say he's illegally using the military on American soil, therefore we will impeach him. I think they've moved on from that because the media has. What they'll probably do is say the war in Iran is an illegal war. We believe that. So therefore, we are going to impeach him on the fact that he went beyond the scope of his power. It is an abuse of power. Those will probably be the charges in the articles of impeachment.

Logan Sekulow: You're giving them a lot of ideas here, Will.

Will: It's not that hard. I'm not giving them any ideas. I'm using their words to say what they're going to do.

Logan Sekulow: If you think Will shouldn't be giving them ideas, let us know in the chat. Yes or no? Do you think Will should be leading this impeachment process? Because it sounds like you're making a compelling case.

Will: No, I think it's absurd. I'm saying that is the thing that they will do because we know what their rhetoric is, and therefore they're going to just use their rhetoric to push an impeachment. There used to be the standards of why was impeachment so rarely used. Only two other times in American history before President Trump. Now a total of four times. He's been impeached two of them. He's about to be the majority shareholder of impeachments as soon as November rolls around and we get into January when they will take over in the House of Representatives if things go according to what they're expecting.

Now, we do know that polling and those kind of things is a very different world here in the 2020s. However, as Will said, it almost feels like a foregone conclusion. As much as I don't want to be that kind of person, and I don't think you should, you've got to get out and vote. You've got to do what you've got to do. But it feels like they are already resigned to the fact that this is going to be a flip.

Logan Sekulow: Well, and I think that's also part of the concern I have too, is where we've talked about some of this conservative nihilism that's risen, where people are saying nothing will ever change. No one will ever be held accountable, etc., etc. Well, I look at it as this is an opportunity to do something. If you think it's a waste of the American taxpayers' money and time, instead of them working together to find, okay, now you have control of the House of Representatives. How about you go forward and try to find across-the-aisle legislation you can pass with a Republican Senate and get the Republican President to sign? Instead, you're just going to try to get him out of office and then J.D. Vance becomes President. It's absurd all of what they're doing just to run out the clock.

Will: Nicola in the comments is saying they are all watching right now. They are watching you go, write that down, write that down.

Logan Sekulow: I can guarantee you they're not watching me.

Will: I don't know, Will. Some people, you know, we have big influence there. Okay. You know what? Just like you say don't be nihilist, don't be a conservative nihilist. Don't be a broadcast nihilist. But that should get people motivated to go vote, to go support a candidate that you care about. Right.

All right, let's take another call. Henry is calling in from Texas. Go ahead, Henry.

Henry: Hi. How you doing? My name is Henry. I'm from Baytown, Texas. I think that they wasted a whole lot of taxpayers' money the last time they tried to impeach President Trump. If they're unsuccessful, I think that they should be held responsible instead of the taxpayers.

Logan Sekulow: Yeah, Henry. What they love is just throwing that impeached label on President Trump. Are they unsuccessful? They would probably say they were successful in impeaching the President. But we know in the back of your head when you think of what an impeachment should lead to, if it was a just impeachment, it would lead to the removal from office, or even as Richard Nixon did, resigning from office before they even got to that moment.

But that's not what this is. This is a political talking point, and they love a good brand to throw something on. They love a label to throw on. They all start using the same words. Why? Because it's really easy to say now the thrice-impeached President Trump.

Will: One thing that Henry I think brings up the point of saying that they need to pay it back. Well, here's the problem. Where do they get their money from when it comes to their salary? It's from us. So, yeah, they're still the taxpayer paying it back. But then I don't think they'd be willing to part with some of the Democrats that are very prolific traders in the stock market when it comes to certain activities. The famous Nancy Pelosi tracker, things of that nature. I don't think they'd be willing to part with that either.

Logan Sekulow: I like where your head's at, Henry. Thanks, Henry, for calling. If you want to call in, we've got a few lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Just me and Will today, so you know what? We'll mix it up. If you've got any other comments related to this specifically or other topics, whether it's the war in Iran, we could talk about anything that's been going on in our world over the last few weeks. I'd love to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110.

Welcome back to Sekulow. There are a lot of you watching today. I'd love for you to call in. We had a bunch of calls lined up and I don't know what happened here. Maybe we had a glitch here in the phone system, but they're all back open again. So 1-800-684-3110. Let me know in the chat also where you're watching from. On sort of these more casual Fridays, I like to read the chat here, see some comments, and also kind of take a big picture on where everyone is tuning in from.

We've had a lot of conversations about the Virginia redistricting, of course, the judge that blocked that, so we know we had a lot of Virginia calls this week. We are all over the country on terrestrial radio and of course, SiriusXM Satellite Radio or on Salem News Channel. But we're also available worldwide thanks to the expansion and being able to offer these shows even live on things like YouTube and on Rumble and other outlets that carry us live—Facebook. It's really an amazing thing. The fact that we can broadcast the way we do right now is something that would have been unfathomable back when we started this show in the late nineties. But here we are. Phone lines again are open for you. Will, you want to pivot a little bit here?

Will: Yeah, I did want to bring this up because I think it's interesting and I think that I'd like to hear from the audience on this one as well. But one, we had a video in the break that talked about the fact that Israel and Lebanon are extending their ceasefire by three weeks. Remember that ten-day ceasefire was announced a few days back, and it really kind of led to Iran stopping their bombing of the Gulf nations, which had nothing to do with what was going on between Israel and Lebanon.

But it really brought them more into the ceasefire, the Iranians. But it's also led to real talks between Israel and Lebanon for the first time in over thirty years. And so you're seeing progress between the government of Lebanon and Israel, and that could lead to something where one of Iran's—probably Iran's strongest proxy still—Hezbollah may be having the government of Lebanon finally doing something about their presence there. But on top of that, there's this other issue. This is the Defense Minister of Israel.

Logan Sekulow: The other issue being a war.

Will: Right. The other side of the war. That the Defense Minister of Israel said that Israel is awaiting a green light from the United States first and foremost to complete the elimination of the Khamenei Dynasty, the initiator of the extermination plan against Israel and the successors of the successors of the leadership of the Iranian terror regime. And in addition, to return Iran to the Age of Darkness and Stone by blowing up central energy and electricity facilities and crushing national economic infrastructure.

Logan Sekulow: I think President Trump wrote that. It sounds like it.

Will: That's actually Defense Minister Katz.

Logan Sekulow: Defense Minister Israel Katz, which sounds like a name President Trump uses posing as the Defense Minister. It's his burner account. He calls into a show and he's like, what should we call him? Defense Minister Israel Katz. Yeah, there you go. That's exactly it. But I want to know from the audience: If the United States were to say, you know what? We're done here. We have eliminated the leadership. We have taken out most of their military capabilities. We feel like we have done what we came to do. They do not have an opportunity at this point to build a nuclear weapon or to restart that nuclear program for decades. We're going to bring our troops home.

Would you be in favor of the United States coming home and Israel doing whatever they want to do after that? Getting the green light, as the Defense Minister says, to go ahead and finish what you and I were talking about earlier in the week? That we do want to see real regime change there. We want to see the Khamenei Dynasty—oh, that, I wasn't sure. We talked about a lot of things. So just trying to see where you're going. Well, no, specifically where we're talking about with the deals being up in the air and the extended ceasefire.

Exactly. Can we—would you as the audience be okay with it if it wasn't the United States that took out the Iranian remnant leadership in the IRGC and help set the people of Iran free?

Logan Sekulow: I would hope so, because look, I would hope so. I hope Israel can just go in and finish the job here if the United States decides to make a deal. I think there's other ways around this and look, I believe there should be freedom for the people in Iran. If you've spoken to really any of your friends and maybe you've seen any of your neighbors who are of Persian or Iranian background, most of them are praying daily for a free Iran, a new government. Not a new group of people in the same style of government, not just a new administration, but a truly new regime.

It doesn't seem to be the plan as someone called in and said. I don't know if it was ever the plan. They are right that it was maybe not ever stated out specifically that this would be President Trump's plan, but we talked about standing behind the Iranian people. I think that means standing for the Iranian people and the people who are in the streets who got murdered for simply speaking out against their government.

There are still two lines open at 1-800-684-3110. Looking at the chat, a lot of you coming in from California today. I don't know why California is such a big hotbed today. I think they're maybe frustrated. They want to talk. Someone in Mexico as well. So we've got people from around the world watching. It's always good to hear from California, always good to hear from Mexico.

And let's take things on the phones. Let's go to the other side of the country, the free state of Florida. Let's go to Cara, who's calling in on Line 2. Go ahead, Cara.

Cara: Hi. My question is you guys are doing a great job of giving us all this information, but what can we really do as American people to kind of combat some of this wasteful spending like we're seeing the stuff with Ilhan Omar and Minnesota? But it's—and I think that's where we're becoming complacent because what can we do? I'm curious as to some ideas that you guys have as to how we can help.

Logan Sekulow: How quickly we forget, Cara. It becomes not the top story and all of a sudden Minnesota feels like that happened five years ago. It feels like we're not even talking about all of that and sort of the waste, fraud, and abuse. This is something that obviously was one of President Trump's big initiatives early on. He had Elon Musk involved, he had DOGE, and it really took a lot of heat and kind of ended up, sadly, falling a little short as Elon would say.

Essentially, there's so much corruption going on—he didn't say it, this is not a quote, but kind of inferred it—so much going on, so much red tape in not just this administration, but just in Washington D.C. in general, that getting things done and actually cutting spending is very, very difficult. And I find that to be frustrating for a lot of you, that there are billions if not trillions of dollars being wasted every year.

Will: Well, I think to one point, though, is that you look and you see things like the Director of the FBI put this out last night, that in the last 24 hours the FBI has taken down a scam center with 503 fraud websites dismantled, which had over 700 million in stolen crypto, other things that are fraudulent activity. But you also look at what the Vice President's task force found in California and how quickly also that pushed California to indict that 21-member fraud ring for hospice fraud that was taking hundreds of millions of dollars.

And it is because of shining a light. It is because of continuing to talk about those things. It is because you let your member of Congress know this matters to me still. So yes, I don't think one, when you have a government and a bureaucracy as large as the United States has, you're never going to completely eliminate it. But that should be the goal and continuing to bring it up and letting those people know this is something that actually matters to me. I don't want just a campaign slogan of eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse and then nothing done about it. I really want to see this happen. That's when you start to see change. And I think this administration is doing something very good when it comes to this fraud initiative because it's even making California react. They had to indict as well. So I think you shouldn't lose hope on that.

Logan Sekulow: Yeah, we're going to keep taking some calls even related to that. There are a lot of people talking about the elections coming up, the midterms as well. Are we being too pessimistic? What does that look like? And of course, a lot of other coverage.

But I want to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. This is the end of the first half hour. You've heard me say it before: second half hour is coming up at ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, however you get your podcast. We are there and live from 12:00 to 1:00 PM Eastern Time, archived whenever on. So find us at ACLJ.org. Be back in less than a minute.