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Welcome to Sekulow. Will Haynes in studio today, and we have a jam-packed show for you today. You’re not going to want to miss it. Go ahead and like, subscribe to the channel, and share it so we can get the word out on this. This just happened as we went live. The Department of Justice unveiled a $6.5 billion healthcare fraud crackdown. This isn’t a replay. This is another round of indictments in other healthcare fraud schemes that the DOJ has uncovered with the partners over at HHS.

This is against 90 medical professionals and targets a range of alleged healthcare fraud schemes. There are more than 450, I believe the total number quoted by the US Attorney on site during the press conference they just held was around 455 indictments in this. This is what has been described as the department's largest coordinated anti-fraud effort to date. We have seen some other numbers in the past where you have seen 300 plus indictments. There was a 412 defendants charged back in 2017.

So it shows that the work of the DOJ and the HHS and the various executive branch departments are going after this fraud still, but it also comes up at a very interesting time with you see the media focused on things that either they're trying to tear down the administration or they're trying to say things aren't going to work. We'll get into all that. But as we are going live, like I said, I'll reiterate for you, 455 indicted, charged with fraud.

This includes 90 medical professionals and targets that range from healthcare fraud schemes such as wound care and opioid distribution. It also includes what officials say is a record number of Medicaid fraud defendants with more than 100 people accused of submitting over $100 million in false Medicaid claims. The operation spanned 57 federal court districts, 45 US states and territories, 46 state Medicaid fraud control units, and they have seized more than $127 million in cash, luxury vehicles, jewelry, and other assets.

We're going to break all of this down as we go, but folks, this is what the American people want to see. At a time where there's fighting over amounts of money being spent on restorations and ballrooms and things of that nature, when you are seeing another $6.5 billion healthcare fraud crackdown, this comes on the heels of remember just last year there was a $14.6 billion healthcare fraud crackdown.

We have seen things like what's going on in Minnesota, what's going on in California. This is what the American people want to see. They're tired of their money being stolen. You can't even get to the policy issues at hand when it comes to things like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, all of these programs that the American people want to see preserved for future generations, but you can't even talk about reform when you're looking at how much is being stolen from them.

What's there to reform at this point? As far as we know, they also may be fine if you take out all the fraud. We're going to break all this down, what it means, and what the media is saying about it in the segments ahead. You're not going to want to miss it. We're also going to play some sound from Attorney General Blanche as he was on site as well as RFK Jr. who was on site in this press conference where they just unveiled this. But folks, you want to get in this conversation early. Tell me what you think. Is the government doing what you want them to do when it comes to fraud? Call me at 1-800-684-3110 to talk to me on air. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow.

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Will Haynes: Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes in studio today. And folks, if you want to talk to me on air, call me at 1-800-684-3110. I'm the only one in studio today. I've Rick Grenell coming up a little bit later. But we're talking about what just happened with the Department of Justice unveiling this new $6.5 billion healthcare fraud crackdown. This is 455 indictments, 455 charges against at least among this 90 medical professionals and targets that range from healthcare fraud schemes such as wound care and opioid distribution, includes a record number of Medicaid fraud defendants with more than 100 people accused of submitting over $100 million in false Medicaid claims.

We're talking about this. We've also talked about the $14 billion that happened last year where they uncovered it. These are very large indictments that they're doing at one time, but it also goes to show that they are continuously working on this, that it takes time for them to investigate and root out all this fraud. It also begs the question of why we weren't seeing this much to this scale under previous administrations. We do know that it's not like the Trump administration never cared about this. Back in 2017, they did something similar in his first term. 412 defendants were charged with $1.3 billion in alleged losses, so high number of defendants, but not as much money taken as we see here.

This also, we see that there was in 2024, 193 defendants charged. This is a problem in the United States. We know this. One thing that I have said is that the expansion of Medicaid and Medicare that happened under the Obamacare scheme is this is the fruit of it. We called it out. We sang that. Okay, that was the biggest number of people that were able to get on health insurance under Obamacare was the expansion of Medicaid. That was the big. It wasn't the individual mandate. It wasn't the exchange program. It was through Medicaid.

And what we're seeing is how many now that we've had time to have investigative reporting on this, you're seeing how many even those numbers of people that got onto Medicaid were fraudulent. They were sometimes people that had no idea they had healthcare because of the way that this, there were so few checks and balances, so few fraud determining mechanisms that they could catch this before it happened. In the end of the day, what Obamacare ended up doing was drive up your healthcare costs as well as steal your money.

You're getting hit twice as an American taxpayer because the healthcare costs for everyone went up. In many cases, you didn't get to keep your doctor as Obama promised, and you're seeing now that it was so ripe for fraud. They were just able to go in there and just take money. And that's what we're seeing and they're finally cracking down on it. But I think that even the crackdowns, if there are not real legislative reforms that come after to fix the loopholes that these fraudsters are using, they're clearly going to keep doing it.

That's a problem. This is a country that has trillions of dollars in debt that the Republicans and Democrats in Congress can't come together on anything. There's no foreseeable future with a balanced budget. They're going to keep spending. But on top of that, how are you ever going to get to those problems when what we have right now is a system that allows people just to steal and steal and steal and enrich themselves off of your money that's fraudulently taken?

But I also think that it's the media doing a disservice to us as well because what have you heard about for weeks now about the reflecting pool? I mean, the Daily from the New York Times did a whole exposé on it. We don't know if this is going to work. We don't know where this money is going for. Is this a waste of money? It cost $14 million, which is a lot of money. I mean, for anyone here in this studio watching this broadcast, it's a lot of money for an individual. But for restoring a monument sounds about right.

Obama tried to fix it. George W. Bush tried to fix it. Reagan tried to fix it. It's a very old piece of concrete that has had many presidents try to fix it. It was leaking in bad disrepair to completely rebuild it is what a lot of people have said would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. So $14 million, they tried something and everyone is celebrating what may be a failure, what may not be a failure. There's some vandalism. But that's front page news at the Washington Post. That's leading nightly news broadcast with sending anchors to the reflecting pool to report on this.

Is this news right here, this DOJ crackdown, is it the front page on Washington Post right now? No, not on their website. Iran cast doubts on nuclear inspections. Vance said what would happen, so trying to ding the administration on that. In the trending articles, you see they're talking about record heat in France, rooftop solar subscriptions, reflecting pool ducks, COVID vaccine study, Kennedy Center, and McDonald's fried apple pie.

Where's this, the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services taking down $6.5 billion in healthcare fraud, 455 people? What’s this reflecting pool duck story? I'm interested, right, because it's trending on Washington Post. That's got to be a big deal, especially when there's something out there about the government taking down $6.5 billion in healthcare fraud, 455 people. The ducks have got to be a bigger deal if that's trending, right? Here's the headline from that. I'm going to click through, doing this in real time for you. A dead duck was seen in the reflecting pool. Then two more were found nearby.

Someone was paid, two people actually, this is two people on this byline from the Washington Post to write this article. It took two journalists, quotes, journalists, to write "a dead duck was seen in the reflecting pool, then two more were found nearby." Meanwhile, there's nothing on their website about this fraud. This is a good thing for every American. I don't care what age, social background, your income status, this is a good news story. This is positive. It's negative that $6.5 billion was stolen from taxpayers, but it is a good news story that the Department of Justice and the Health and Human Services Department are going after fraud in our government.

Waste, fraud, and abuse. That's part of the reason that President Trump was elected. Even if you didn't like a lot of his policies or you didn't like his personality or you didn't think he was conservative enough or you didn't think he was liberal enough or whatever, people were excited by the fact that someone was finally saying maybe we should look at all the waste, fraud, and abuse in our government. And what were we told? DOJ is bad. It's going to kick people off their healthcare. They're going to lose their government benefits. There's no real fraud problem. We see indictments. It's fine. Nothing to see here.

How dare you shut down USAID? There's no way that it was funneling money to places and things that no American would want to fund around the world. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you? And they filed lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit to get things shut down, to slow the work down, to stop it effectively. But the government didn't stop and the agenda didn't stop to go after fraud, and we're seeing that, and that's a good thing. That's something to celebrate.

As we sit here on the precipice of the 250th anniversary of this country, a legacy item would be something where you are able to drastically expose the fraud in this country and wipe it out as much as possible, fix the loopholes, and also put fraudsters on notice that it's not an easy payday. That's a good legacy item. But meanwhile, we're getting headlines from the Washington Post about a dead duck. One seen in the reflecting pool and then two others were found nearby. So this true crime story from the Washington Post is about three dead ducks. That's the mystery of the decades.

Meanwhile, 455 indictments were announced this morning. I keep refreshing the page, hoping that this will pop up somewhere, that they have someone writing about this because this is a big story. The reflecting pool is peanuts compared to that. It may not have worked, the reflecting pool, right? But also that the people that are championing and celebrating a failure of something that's trying to make something look better and saying you wasted $14 million of our taxpayer money, well why don't you talk about the $6.5 billion that was being stolen from you?

Because one drastically outweighs the other. I'm going to take your phone calls starting in the next segment. Give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. Do you think this is a good thing or do you think I'm overblowing this? Is this something I got excited when I saw it and our team, we were like, oh this is really good news? They're doing this again. It's not even a one-and-done headline like a few weeks ago when they announced a big fraud crackdown. This keeps going. So let me know. Call me at 1-800-684-3110 or leave a comment on YouTube or Rumble. And if you can, support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org.

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Will Haynes: Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes here. I'm about to get to some phone calls because I think some of you are as fired up as I am today about this situation. I just can't get over the duck story at the Washington Post. It really is hysterical because talk about making a mountain out of a molehill, the amount of waste in our government, if they are going to pinpoint one thing and try to say this reflecting pool is the worst thing that's ever happened as they have been trying to do for weeks now, it's just absurd and it makes you laugh in a way, but it makes you sad in another way.

But I did want to bring this up real quick. If you watched yesterday, we talked about this student in Washington state. She's in the Highline Public School District in Washington state, and this is now the third time that she has been singled out really for her beliefs in this school district. And we've had to fight for this young Christian girl since she was in second grade. She's in sixth grade now. We fought for her in second grade when she was subjected to these authoritarian searches of her backpack every single day to make sure she wasn't bringing in contraband. What was that contraband? Bible verses on a piece of paper, gospel tracts.

Singling out a second grader, imagine that, for something that is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States. And then she was told she can't say Jesus at school just earlier in this school year. And then finally she was forced to attend an assembly. It was called an inclusion assembly. But it wasn't just an inclusion assembly, and when she said, hey, some of this makes me very uncomfortable, one teacher said, okay yeah, you don't have to attend.

I guarantee you if they had a Trump rally in a school, which I don't think they would in Washington state, and students said this makes me uncomfortable, they'd probably be able to opt out. But instead, they she said, hey, some of this makes me uncomfortable, can I not be in here? She left, was able to leave from one teacher, and then another teacher forced her back in and said you don't have a choice. And this girl was forced to remain in there as she wept, thinking that she was going to get in trouble or she'd be in trouble or just knowing that she was being forced to violate her beliefs by attending.

We're on that. We're going to talk about it more tomorrow. We'll have Christy Compagnone join us. She has been helping this family since the girl was in second grade, so she'll be able to give even more context. She knows this family very well at this point, and we are so grateful that we can help this family and this brave girl for standing up for what she believes in since she was in second grade. I mean, just the fact of that, this school district's trying to crush her in many ways of saying, hey, don't stand up for what you believe. Don't talk to your friends about your beliefs.

But she is brave enough and courageous enough to say, no, I know what's right. I'm going to continue to do this. We are so grateful that we can stand alongside this family. But we can't do it without you, the ACLJ members and champions. If you're a champion, you have a set-it-and-forget-it donation that you know every month you want a certain amount of money to go to the ACLJ to continue fighting for girls like this. And you can go to ACLJ.org/champions and you can be one of those champions that's standing alongside this middle school girl who is extremely courageous.

She is the hero of this story. She knows that she can stand up for her faith and she also knows that an organization like the ACLJ has her back. And what does that mean? It doesn't just mean the people here talking on air or in the studio over there, it means the attorneys. It also means you, ACLJ champions or one-time donors at ACLJ.org. You're standing with her. You are the backstop holding her up as she is courageous in what is extremely difficult years for a young girl. Middle school. Everyone talks about how difficult middle school is. It's almost a joke that you survived middle school, right?

Now imagine that it's not just all the social issues with your peers and the disagreements and the changes you go through as you're growing up and becoming more mature and learning about life and you're not a little kid anymore, but also you have this administration coming after you non-stop. So we're standing up for her. They have until the 25th of this month, June 25th, to respond to the very forceful letter that was sent to them that includes things like, hey, three strikes and you're out, folks. This is the third time you've come after this girl.

So stand with her and support the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. I want to get to a phone call here in this segment. I'm going to keep coming through this as we go. Let's go to first Jim from Maryland on line four. Jim, you're on Sekulow.

Jim: Hey, good afternoon. It's good to hear you guys. I was elated when I turned on your show and heard about the fraud indictments. But like every other American, what I think we're really waiting for is to hear about the indictments of our traitorous and criminal politicians that we the people elected and put in office. People like Ilhan Omar, Ocasio-Cortez, they've all been shown to have earned all this kind of money on a salary of what, 150,000 a year? I think the American people are waiting. They're elated at what was uncovered by the DOJ, but when are these politicians going to start facing justice?

Will Haynes: Yeah, Jim, I know there's a lot of chatter around Ilhan Omar and the net worth that seemed to grow very quickly and then they tried to say, no, that didn't really happen, it was a mistake, an accounting error where all of a sudden we had a net worth of 30 million. Honestly, it's up to the Department of Justice to look at things when there is evidence of a crime and go through the natural and proper process. And I think that's also the key here is that you don't want indictments that are not sound that won't go anywhere, and then it disheartens the people anymore. You want the rule of law to stand. You want it to continue and be done the proper way.

But it's also, it is disheartening when you see things like grand jury subpoenas that were issued surrounding Governor Walz of Minnesota, right, former VP candidate. Can you remember that or have you already forgotten about him? But a judge blocked DOJ subpoenas saying they were blatantly unlawful. They were political retribution for his refusal to assist the immigration crackdown. I assume that these will be appealed to some degree, but it's interesting when we know what we've seen thus far is that there are whistleblowers saying they knew about the fraud in Minnesota and would ignore it.

So the DOJ is trying to uncover corruption and fraud of elected officials, but it's tough. It's a tough climate. Some judges get political, some indictments get political. And a purely political indictment is not good either. So if it's just done for that reason, not good. If the judge is just saying it is that, that's not good either. It's a tough place to be right now, Jim. I understand your concern. I understand a lot of Americans' concern that get disheartened when they think they see rampant corruption.

I mean we're even hearing about Senator Gallego right now using campaign cash to pay his mother-in-law as a babysitter and using campaign cash to go to Disney. That doesn't sit right with the American people. So hopefully DOJ will look into all these things. We'll be back with more Sekulow after this break, but support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org or become a champion today.

Jordan Sekulow: For decades now, the ACLJ has been on the front lines, protecting your freedom, defending your rights in court, in Congress, and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member, thank you. And if you're not, well, this is the perfect time to stand with us at ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing work. Become a member today. ACLJ.org.