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Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Sekulow for your Tuesday. We're here. It's April 14th, Will. You know what that means tomorrow is?

Will: Tax Day!

Logan Sekulow: Is it still, or did they move it? There's always like because there are holidays that fall on it. I feel like this I'm not hearing a lot of rumbling about it. Maybe people don't focus on the 15th as much as they used to. But that being said, it is April 14th. We got a packed show for you. Rick Grenell is joining us in the next segment. We have a lot to unpack. There is a lot of news coming out, and a lot of it has to do with work the ACLJ has been involved in directly or indirectly. And of course, it is Law and Justice Week that we just kicked off where donations are doubled.

But we're going to kick off this show talking about our friend, former colleague. She was on this show for a number of years before she became the Director of National Intelligence because that is the kind of people that we bring on here on Sekulow. And we have a former Director of National Intelligence joining us in the next segment, Rick Grenell. So you know what? That's the kind of group that we bring in to give you expert advice always when you are watching this show.

But of course, our friend Tulsi Gabbard, and this one's really interesting, has really laid out in a document released today all of the conspiracy that was really going on behind the scenes for the 2020 election. So a lot of that first impeachment trial, of course my dad did, my brother, you may remember that, all about that call with Ukraine and everything that happened in between that. I don't usually say this, but very rarely is there a government document that I think you should go read in full. This is a good one. It is written in fairly plain English for the most part, and it's something that is fairly fascinating to really break down all the different layers that were happening and were happening by very prominent people and were not being taken care of even when brought to the attention of the right people.

Will: That's right. What makes this so interesting is, one, it's something that we could have assumed maybe that there were shenanigans and deep state individuals going after the President through this impeachment. But the Director of National Intelligence is able to lay it out, that's Tulsi Gabbard, lay out in plain English how the Inspector General for the intelligence community, so that is supposed to be the watchdog to make sure that nefarious things aren't going on within the intelligence community, weaponized his position, went beyond his statutory authority to push this whistleblower narrative to lead to the impeachment of President Trump.

He relied on this whistleblower report, which was returned to him saying this isn't of urgent concern to get before Congress, the DOJ assessed. He went beyond the guardrails. He used non-firsthand reports, and they kind of say that over and over again. It was secondhand reports as well as in the two witnesses that corroborated this also had no firsthand knowledge. One of those witnesses was an author of the intelligence community assessment, which is the Russia hoax from 2016. This is the deep state at their worst, and it's all in transcripts in government official documents. We see it here in black and white now. This wasn't just even a conspiracy hoax. This was a legitimate effort by multiple angles in the government, the Congress as well as the Inspector General for the IC, to bring down a sitting President.

Logan Sekulow: We're going to keep this conversation going. Up next is Rick Grenell. He's going to be joining us here in the second segment early in the show today. But it's a perfect time to go ahead and call in if you got a question or comment right now. We got a few lines still open, 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. It's Law and Justice Week. Let's throw that graphic up on the screen. There you go. Law and Justice, first time I've seen it. Double the difference today. Be a part of it. It is all during Double the Difference month, but this week we are specifically focused on a lot of the work the ACLJ has been doing in the Supreme Court, whether that's historically for the last 35 plus years or what we're doing even to this day. And there is work at the Supreme Court happening as we speak, and the ACLJ continues their fight no matter how long it takes. We continue fighting to defend your rights and hold people accountable. So I want you to be a part of the team as well. Have your donation doubled today, ACLJ.org/justice. We'll be right back.

Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Sekulow. Rick Grenell is joining us overseas right now. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. I need to restate a bit of what we're talking about here because I've been looking at the numbers and a lot of you are just joining us right now. So Will, maybe you could help set this up. Again, this is from our friend, former colleague, current DNI Tulsi Gabbard, really put together a very exhaustive document that I believe, and we're going to try to get it up on our website, you should go read because it's actually very easy read compared to a lot of what you get out of Washington D.C. with the details of what is happening specifically with the conspiracy that was happening in the 2020 election season during 2019 and throughout of course the first impeachment trials. So just to set that up a little bit and then we'll get Rick's thoughts.

Will: That's right. So in this report, it comes from transcripts that the DNI had access to of closed-door testimony from the intelligence community Inspector General Michael Atkinson. And what it goes to show is one, how determined this Inspector General was at getting this whistleblower complaint before Congress. It also shows that the whistleblower, alleged whistleblower, lied to the Inspector General to try and force this along more quickly.

It also shows that the witnesses and the whistleblower had no firsthand knowledge of this. It also shows that the Inspector General himself was concerned that if it was shut down, he was contacting other Inspectors General, such as the State Department, Justice Department, to see if they would pick up where he got shut down because they wanted this to be before Congress. And Rick, you have a little bit of history with this intelligence community Inspector General because as we mentioned previously, you served as acting DNI during the first Trump administration.

Rick Grenell: I was the DNI when Michael Atkinson was the IG, when he was the Inspector General. And I saw him really not play fair, be extremely partisan. He had an attitude of he was out to get Trump and anyone associated with Trump. And so he was removed while I was DNI. He was removed by President Trump on a Friday night. I remember we removed him, and he was no longer the Inspector General.

At the time, the media went crazy because of course they had this narrative that Donald Trump was trying to target people for their partisan views or for their non-support of his views. And what was clear that Donald Trump was fixing an Inspector General problem that we had because we had an Inspector General that wasn't looking at the facts, wasn't interested in the facts, wasn't interested in talking to people about the facts. He was interested in just getting Donald Trump, no matter what.

And he ran ramshod over the actual process that an Inspector General is supposed to do. Remember, the Inspector General is there in agencies to be the guy that is absolutely above partisanship. He's there as a referee to call balls and strikes, to look at the situation and issue thoughtful reports about the political attacks that come from the media and from the opposition. This guy was a phony and a fraud. He was an activist out to get Trump, and he posed as someone who was going to be a referee. And I'm very glad that President Trump fired him in 2020. It was in early April of 2020. And it's even greater irony that now Tulsi Gabbard, former Democrat, looks at the Inspector General's process to say he didn't follow the rules. He was just gung-ho on trying to get Trump. He didn't follow the facts. He didn't talk to people. It was a political chop job, and she has now outed him. And we now look backwards and say it was the right thing to do and it never should have happened.

Logan Sekulow: Rick, are you surprised at all when you look at this document and like I said, I think our audience should go read it because it's intensive, but it's not hard to read and it's actually all very much in plain English. So much so that they were keeping these conversations going very actively, not in some sort of code, not really in secrecy. As someone who's been on the inside, does it surprise you at all of kind of how haphazard they were with being honest internally at what the goal was?

Rick Grenell: They felt a sense of protection from their colleagues because all of their colleagues felt the same way. But this makes me realize in order to clean up the intelligence community, we really have to clean up all of the people that are not there to find factual information that's going to help protect our national security. We have too many people in the intelligence community that are just out to get President Trump, out to get conservatives. They play partisan politics with Intel. It makes us less safe as a country. And I think we've got to do a more holistic review of those in the intelligence community that have already proven to fail us and be partisan and get rid of them.

Will: Rick, one of the more interesting angles in this, and I think it's something that we probably haven't seen before if it was reported it wasn't necessarily directly from the government, but one of the witnesses that this Inspector General used to corroborate the alleged whistleblower admitted that he was one of the authors of the Obama-ordered ICA that changed everything, that started the Russia collusion hoax back in 2016 after the election when President Trump was going into office. This individual actually worked with Peter Strzok. And so what we see here when we've heard the Director Gabbard speak of this grand conspiracy and when people wonder, will there be accountability, what we're seeing now is that it's the same people trying to get at the same goal over multiple years and weaponizing government against a duly elected President of the United States. And one, I guess it shouldn't surprise us, but does it? Does it surprise you that it's not just a different set of rogue actors within the deep state? It's some of the same people.

Rick Grenell: It doesn't surprise me. I think the bureaucracy is out of control in many ways. What does surprise me is that we have a lazy media that's not interested in outing those people paid by US taxpayers who are not doing their job, who are acting in partisan ways and pretending to be the referee. In this particular case, this is like the arsonist not only calling the fire department afterwards, but being in charge of the investigation to see who started the fire.

Logan Sekulow: Rick, this is a when we talk about these big topics and I think it can get a little heady, we get caught up in sort of the hoopla of what's happening around pop culture and what's happening in the world. But these are serious issues. These are issues that the American people need to be exposed to in a way that maybe the mainstream media, like you said, doesn't necessarily focus on. They'll put it up. It'll be one of the rotating five or six stories. But we're watching the news this morning, Will, and it was everything from a parrot that can now swim in its own submarine all this, and you're talking about real, not that that's not fun and not that we all don't share it and trust me, my wife had sent that to me earlier. But when you're talking about the main topics of what our news media should be covering, it's why I'm very thankful that we're able to not have anyone above us to control what we're talking about and the numbers today show that the crowd who would typically be interested in this is more interested than ever to really find out what's going on, to hopefully get the answers.

Rick Grenell: This is the week that we pay taxes. This is the week that Americans are dealing with the amount of money taken out of their check and they're trying to see did they take out too much, do I get a refund, or do I owe money. This is all about taxes to the federal government. When you pay your taxes, you expect that the people you're paying for the bureaucrats to actually be real public servants, not out to get a certain side. We've been disappointed over and over. It's going to continue to happen and we've got to have leaders that will gut it.

Logan Sekulow: Rick, thanks so much for joining us today. We have a packed rest of the show and look, you can find out a lot of great content on our website. If you haven't spent some time there, go to ACLJ.org. Of course you can support financially and we are during our Law and Justice Week and look, it feels very appropriate right now as we have this discussion. Be a part of Law and Justice Week as your donations are doubled at ACLJ.org. But spend some time there as well. Rick was our special guest contributor today. From here on out, it's me and Will. But we do have something very big to talk about in the next segment as well. Another government report, this one out of the Department of Justice. It is shocking and it also shows the hard work of the ACLJ directly in the report. So stick around, share it with your friends, hit the like button, subscribe and comment because we've got a lot coming out.

Will: You gave them so much to do, Logan. Do everything you just gave them. Hype the video, too. That's a thing. How you do that? You click hype. Actually, I don't think you can hype our channel. I think we're too big. Never mind. I think you got to be under half a million and we're well over that here at the ACLJ. So with that, phone lines are open. I want to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Be a part of the show today by calling in, but also be a part of the team. You're going to hear in the next segment again how the ACLJ work directly affects what's going on in the top levels of our government. We are the ones doing the hard work for you, but you are part of the team at ACLJ.org.

Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Sekulow. Welcome back, that's what I meant. A little rusty, I took a day off. This is what happens. We do have some calls coming in. We're going to shift topics here in a minute, but a lot of you are calling in specifically about Tulsi Gabbard and this document that was released. Really interesting one that we've been discussing for the last 20 minutes or so. But I'm going to take some calls about that, then we're going to move on to some work the ACLJ is doing. But if you're on hold for that, just stay on hold. We'll circle back to it. Robert from Maryland on line one, you're on the air.

Robert: Yes. Hi. I wanted to ask the both of you what other sources and methods did the Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard use to gather the information to find out there was this conspiracy, especially by members of Congress, but not only by them, to impeach President Trump?

Will: Well Robert, a lot of it was based off of two transcripts that the intelligence community Inspector General gave before the House Intelligence Committee. Now remember, that was the committee that spearheaded the impeachment of President Trump. That was Adam Schiff's committee. And you even see in this that the quote, whistleblower, lied to the Inspector General to try and get this urgent concern matter through. They knew the loopholes.

And specifically, the whistleblower told the Inspector General, I have not communicated to Congress about this because he was wanting it to be officially transmitted from the intelligence community Inspector General to Congress. In reality, he had been speaking with Adam Schiff, the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. So the lie was to try and get this to be quicker so that they could try to do something to derail a presidential bid. Also, we know that these transcripts were withheld from the Judiciary Committee during the impeachment trial and they were kept locked in a safe until recently, March 24th, the House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rick Crawford led a vote to release the transcripts. So they were trying, as we saw with the FBI with the Russia hoax, how James Comey would put stuff in burn bags and locked away, they were trying to do something very similar here with the Intelligence Committee in the House as well as the Inspector General and the intelligence community at large. So once again, trying to play with the rules in a way to defraud the American people by making them think what was happening actually wasn't happening. And what we see is that they got an impeachment that they were looking for. We know firsthand. We lived through that. Your dad was the leader of the impeachment defense team for President Trump. Jordan as well worked on that. We saw them in the well of the Senate for weeks on that.

Logan Sekulow: I've seen a few people ask specifically for the name of this document. We are actually working right now to get it up on ACLJ.org. And we'll try to get to that specifically soon, but I think we can get the name of the document. If you are interested in searching it, give us a second, we'll pull it up.

Will: Well specifically if you go to DNI.gov and go to the news section, there is a titled article, DNI Tulsi Gabbard Exposes Conspiracy Used by Congress to Impeach President Trump. However, our team is working to get that directly linked on our website right now so that you can go to ACLJ.org and go to the news section and it'll be there shortly, or if you're listening later, it will already be there.

Give us a minute, we'll do that and we'll try to even get the link in the comments for a lot of you that are talking about this. We only got about five minutes here in this segment. I want you to give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. Get in line for the next half hour. We're going to take a lot of calls. But we do have some work the ACLJ has been directly involved in, and in a way that you're going to love here because look, we talk a lot about the work of the ACLJ and you have to trust us that we are out there and that our team is fighting for all of you. But then there are times where it gets a little bit even more corroborated in some of these big documents that come in. This one, look, I don't even know if we have time to really break it down, but let's try to scale it down and then we'll come back with it as well.

Will: We're going to continue. I could talk for days about this because it is incredible. This is a new report released this morning by the Department of Justice titled, The Biden Administration's Weaponization of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, the FACE Act. This is an 800-page report, 880 I believe page report. I didn't print the whole thing. I only printed about the first 40 pages. Not going to waste the paper. Well, exactly, because too much time to get through.

However, here's what the report was doing. This is a part of looking into how the Biden administration weaponized the federal government against conservatives and people of faith and Christians. And what the DOJ found is that they used the FACE Act, as we knew, as we have seen throughout the work of the ACLJ, that the DOJ would go after pro-life individuals and use that law, the FACE Act, specifically to target them. We found a dual system of justice, or that's what the DOJ has shown in this report. There is a dual system of justice. They used the FACE Act to go after pro-lifers and they used it to shield pro-abortion businesses and clinics.

And specifically, when the Dobbs decision came out in 2022 around June, they we all saw it. There was firebombing of clinics, there was defacing of clinics, Jane's Revenge was taking credit for this, this group. And the Biden administration, what did they do? Nothing. They sat on it. And this report finds, and this is on page seven of it, this is up at ACLJ.org, a link to it. The article title is Bombshell DOJ Report Confirms ACLJ Warning of Biden Weaponization.

But listen to this, page seven. The Biden DOJ's interactions with pro-life groups were limited. In August of 2022, several months after Dobbs, the American Center for Law and Justice sent a letter to the DOJ raising concerns that pregnancy resource centers had been quote, firebombed and vandalized across the nation and reiterating that such facilities are covered by the FACE Act. A CRT attorney circulated the letter, after which the Deputy Assistant Attorney General Robert Moossy inquired on the status of the task force meeting for pro-life clinics. The task force director, CRT trial attorney Sanjay Patel, responded that he was waiting on the FBI to set up a call with the US Conference of Catholic Bishops to put CRT in touch with pro-life facilities. Then the Deputy Assistant Attorney General did a quick Google search to identify who maybe they could reach out to.

So months after they had done nothing, we sent a letter, they're like, oh maybe we should act like we're doing something. One guy says, we're just waiting on the FBI. The Deputy Assistant Attorney General Googled pro-life resource center, found one. They didn't actually reach out until September. Meanwhile, it was front page news that people were firebombing clinics in Pennsylvania, D.C., New York, all around the country that were pro-life centers. The DOJ under Biden was doing nothing. But it gets a lot worse and we'll tell you that coming up.

Logan Sekulow: Yeah, we'll get to that in the next half hour of the show. And you may be wondering how do I get that half hour? Well if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble or ACLJ.org, just stay here. You don't go anywhere. We'll be back in less than a minute. But if you are listening on terrestrial radio, you may have to switch over. Some networks don't carry the full hour. Find us on ACLJ.org. Even if you're listening to this later, the full show, the full hour is always available every day. We do it live from 12:00 to 1:00 PM Eastern Time, and then it's available immediately archived every day. Be a part of the team right now. Go to our YouTube channel, go to ACLJ.org. You can get the ACLJ app. There's a lot of different ways. We try to make sure the show is available in every platform that we can. And we do that at absolutely no cost. And that only happens because you decided to become an ACLJ Champion or an ACLJ member. I need you to do that today. Think about it. Your donations are doubled today through the rest of the month, but it's Law and Justice Week. Be a part of it.