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Guest (Male): Iran sleeper cells hit Europe and the UK. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments, or call 1-800-684-3110. And now, your host, Logan Sekulow.

Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Sekulow. It's Wednesday. We have phone lines open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Will is joining me in studio. Mike Pompeo and Rick Grenell will be joining us in the back half of the broadcast, so we want you to be a part of it as well at 1-800-684-3110. One of the updates today has been about the sleeper cell situation that has been breaking out amongst Europe and, of course, in the United Kingdom.

We know this is happening. There were arrests made actually overnight in the ambulance bombings if you will, that took place in a Jewish neighborhood in London, a Jewish charity that was taken out. Again, clearly targeted. At the time, we knew that some Iranian-backed groups were taking responsibility. We also know now is that these almost shadow faux groups are being created to kind of keep people off the scent, if you will.

And that is what is happening right now. They're almost bogus terrorist organizations that are all probably being funded and supported by the same people, but can operate a little differently. And there can be some light, some distance between the IRGC and these Iranian terrorist groups that are being, again, clearly activated right now.

Will: That's right. So what we're hearing, and this is out of intelligence sources that told the Wall Street Journal, we also have reports that elaborate on this in CBS News, but this group called the Islamic Movement of the Righteous Companions has been taking credit for not just the London attack, but many across Europe. We're talking about multiple in Belgium, in the Netherlands. These are places that aren't really making the news a ton because of all of the war news that's going on.

But this group, this same Islamic Movement of the Righteous Companions, has been taking credit for these attacks. What's unique about this group is that according to intelligence services in Europe, they'd never heard of this group. It wasn't even a thing until about a month ago. So it's coinciding with the war on Iran.

What the prevailing theory is, and what they've also been able to trace back, is that these groups are using this front name, almost a shell terrorist organization name, to obfuscate the links to the IRGC. This is an Iranian exportation of terror into Europe as a direct response to the conflict.

Logan Sekulow: As we have been talking about, it is playing out, but they aren't taking credit for it directly. They are trying to hide the fact that it is them using another weapon of war, this terror campaign. And CBS News has reporting that we'll get into later that they have people ready to move in Europe, beyond what's already happened, as well as potentially the United States.

And obviously, even this direct contact between Iran and Europe is much closer. There's a lot less land to fill, a lot less ocean to cover than in terms to come to America, but we do know that these potential sleeper cells exist within our country. I think it would be dumb of us to think that somehow we are fully safe just due to our pretty massive border that we have.

Now, that being said, of course, we have great security people who are being more watchful. But again, as Will said, there have been a lot more attacks, specifically on Jewish sites throughout Europe, way more than we're hearing about here in the United States. This is in Germany, this is in Belgium, this is throughout Europe in general. Places are happening. A group, again, Molotov cocktails thrown at a synagogue two weeks ago. March 22nd, a foiled attack on a synagogue in the Netherlands.

This is happening what seemingly is like daily at this point throughout Europe and the UK. How are we going to respond? I want to hear from you. 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we are now halfway through our Stop the Madness week. We made it to Wednesday, folks. Congratulations. But I need your support. Go to ACLJ.org. Have your donations doubled today. Again, at ACLJ.org, all your donations are tax-deductible and doubled throughout the week.

Guest (Male): Right now, your most sacred rights are under attack. Your right to free speech, your right to worship, your right to educate your children the way you choose. If successful, these attacks will have a destructive impact on the future of our republic. We're fighting in courtrooms across the country to have a lasting impact, defending and upholding our values that this nation was founded on. From protecting the rights of kids to pray and share their faith.

Guest (Male): The best thing you can do is take a stand. There's nothing too small. A kid who wants to start a Bible club is how the ACLJ got its first case to the US Supreme Court. And today, we would take that case as long as we needed it. Every victory makes a major impact, and it's only possible because of the support of ACLJ members and champions. This is your opportunity to double your impact to defend freedom for you, your children, and generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible donation doubled today.

Guest (Male): We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed across this country and around the world.

This fight isn't just the ACLJ's. It's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom.

Guest (Male): Right now, your most sacred rights are under attack. Your right to free speech, your right to worship, your right to educate your children the way you choose. If successful, these attacks will have a destructive impact on the future of our republic. We're fighting in courtrooms across the country to have a lasting impact, defending and upholding our values that this nation was founded on. From protecting the rights of kids to pray and share their faith.

The best thing you can do is take a stand. There's nothing too small. A kid who wants to start a Bible club is how the ACLJ got its first case to the US Supreme Court. And today, we would take that case as long as we needed it. Every victory makes a major impact, and it's only possible because of the support of ACLJ members and champions. This is your opportunity to double your impact to defend freedom for you, your children, and generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible donation doubled today.

Logan Sekulow: At Sekulow, phone lines are open for you. I do want to hear from you today. Give me a call. As we know, these attacks are happening now, specifically targeted at the Jewish communities throughout Europe, throughout the UK, and of course, we know here in the United States as well. And again, not Israeli embassies, not Israelis, not the Israeli government. Where is it going after? Synagogues, Jewish charities, day schools. We saw what happened in Canada. All of these things are happening continually throughout the Western world now, specifically targeting, again, the Jewish community.

Not direct tied organizations within the Israeli government. So when people start spinning that it is not a push against the Jewish community when you hear this sort of anti-Israel rhetoric, look at where the targets end up. When Iran decides to respond, a sleeper cell is awoken. Where are they sent? They are sent to destroy a Jewish charity, to target a synagogue, to try to cause mass destruction at a Jewish day school or at an orthodox school or anywhere.

This is happening. And now we know it's happening more and more, and we know that it's coming from these shell organizations. And that's the part that's very interesting here. When there is breaking news, what it looks like, what does a sleeper cell look like? I think that's something that people have questions about. Well, now we're kind of getting a peek behind the curtain, which is an organization that did not exist up until four weeks ago. What also didn't exist until four weeks ago? The war in Iran.

So four weeks ago, it seems, an organization with a very long name was created to radicalize people, get people involved in terrorist activity. But we know that in general, this is all coming from the same source. And again, it's happening in a way, and we know this because there are some arrests being made. There were arrests made in London overnight. Two people have been arrested so far on those ambulance bombings.

But what we're also learning is because of how regular this is now throughout the Western world, it's not breaking into our news cycle unless it's happening aggressively within our own country. But as we know, the creep that can come in from Europe, the creep that can come in from the United Nations coming from the EU, from the UK, makes its way to America a lot easier than it once did. And we have seen that time and time again, and it's only gotten worse over the last four weeks.

Will: Well, and once again, when we're talking about this group, it's the English translation. It's much more difficult to pronounce in Arabic. I'm going to make you do it. Okay. Harakat al-Shabab al-Yamin al-Islamiya, which translates to Islamic Movement of the Righteous Companions. You know, I've helped out with some audiobooks around here that contain very difficult-to-pronounce names like... You should be clarified. Well, around the we talk about the Jerusalem book that your dad put out. Books on our side. Oh, yeah, positive for us to put out. However, calling out Sharia and the bad guys, okay.

But I've had to read a lot of these names before. Anyhow, this translates to the Islamic Movement of the Righteous Companions in the English translation. What we know about this group is that it wasn't even an online presence. The first Telegram chats that these intelligence agencies were discovering were March 9th, and the operation Epic Fury began on February 28th. It tracks directly after the action of the United States and Israel. This group pops up.

And why they also believe that this has direct ties to the Iranians: one, because they're seeing the messages, the recruiting, they're understanding how this works. But you also see how quickly from March 9th they are able to actually carry out attacks. It isn't as if they are like, okay, let's create a new group, let's radicalize some people within a few days, and then go bomb places. No, they are able to do this because this is the network that Tehran has been putting around the world for years.

We know that individuals on terror watchlists have crossed our southern border. The DHS's own number says more than 300 under the Biden years. That's how they set up these networks. And when you talk about a sleeper cell, they are not going forward and saying, "We are Iranians. We are the ones that are doing this under the direction of the IRGC." No, they use a new name for a fictitious group to give Iran that plausible deniability, that layer of separation, so that also in negotiations that the President says are ongoing, they can't say, "No, no, that's not us. We're not doing terror on civilian targets."

Logan Sekulow: And they are largely targeting themselves, young teenagers, young adults who can be easily manipulated, can be easily radicalized. And I don't mean to paint that easily, but, you know, a lot softer of a target, if you will, for radicalization. And when you have vulnerable younger men who are looking for something and they get connected on Telegram, and I think that's something we have to also realize: we live in a modern world here.

When you think of sleeper cells, you may think of some deep espionage happening. They're operating a lot more open than you'd expect, because the first time some of these were brought to the attention was just days before an attack, including an Iranian Telegram channel that called for sleeper cells to activate. You know, that's a quote.

Will: And once again, when you're seeing the messaging here, some of the channels that aren't related to this group were directly describing some of the attacks days before they carried it out. The links are all there. It's almost a foregone conclusion. We know where this is originating, we know where it's being directed out of. And honestly, that is one of the more dangerous layers to the next phase of the ongoing conflict.

As long as there are IRGC officials and commanders in place, even if they aren't the top of the top, they are going to continue to try and do what they've always done. Hamas is a proxy of Iran. They coordinated October 7th. Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis, as well as countless other groups that may have a stronger foothold and people who pledge their allegiance to them than some of these other groups. But this whole model, we did a film called "The Export" years ago that was about Iran exporting terror. We made that movie about what exactly Iran does in their playbook.

Logan Sekulow: We're seeing the fruits of that labor right now. And of course, it's coming from interesting places. Where would it be coming out of? I don't know, Germany, where Iran has somehow a stranglehold on people there? Where you're seeing this happen there? And look, Germany, over the last 100 years or so, 80 years, have been pretty hardcore fighters of antisemitism because, obviously, they had a lot to make up for.

And they don't take that very lightly. You can't walk around in Germany with a swastika. You can't walk around with an SS symbol. You can't have Nazi protests in Germany. But somehow, we've returned once again to it being one of the hotbeds that is leading to antisemitism being spread throughout Europe. But it's being spread throughout Europe in a different way. Not through traditional Europeans, through Germany, through what you think of when you think of German antisemitism. We are talking about a lot of it coming through, again, this Islamic extremism that has kind of crept its way through Europe.

Will: Here's what's also fascinating but also a warning is that the group in their public messaging has encouraged people in the European Union to distance themselves immediately from all American and Zionist interests and everything connected to them. So basically saying, even if it's a synagogue, a church, anything that they see as connected to American or Zionists, that's their words, interest, stay away. Those are their targets.

But also it mentions CBS in their reporting talks about specifically that they are in their posts repeatedly referencing Christian and Jewish philosophy to justify the group's actions. Now, once again, this goes back to what we've been talking about for weeks here, that the ideology that is demonic that comes out of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the leadership there, their mortal enemies are the West.

Their mortal enemies are Christians. Their mortal enemies are Jews. They will not rest until they have ushered in their utopian apocalyptic world where they have wiped out all Christians and Jews and made everyone their version of Shia Islam. That is what the Iranian Ayatollahs and Mullahs believe. So when you have these groups that are saying we're targeting Christians and Jews, take them at their word because they believe that they are commanded to do it in order to fulfill prophecy. It is an apocalyptic genocidal death cult. And they are exporting that to the EU and to America. Don't be afraid, but be vigilant.

Logan Sekulow: That should be the name of the sub-terror group that they have right now, the genocidal apocalyptic death cult. I mean, it sounds very similar to that already. But that's just, I mean, Will is right. That is where we're at right now. Look, if you're watching online, I want you to be part of this with us right now. A lot of you are just joining us right now. Phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110.

I know you may not be used to calling in. We do this a little differently, a little old school. We take your calls and comments. We're going to take your calls. 1-800-684-3110. We're going to be joined a little later by Mike Pompeo and Rick Grenell, two great voices that can give you really the inside information of what it's like to be in these situations.

When you're talking about Iran, there's not really a better person, honestly, to talk to who's been there and experienced it like Mike Pompeo. We're talking about Germany, what's going on in Europe, not a better person you could talk to than the former ambassador to Germany, Rick Grenell. So stay tuned. It is Stop the Madness week. Couldn't be more appropriate time. We get back, we'll talk a little bit about the work of the ACLJ. Also be right back.

Guest (Male): We've witnessed monumental legal victories from defending the 14th Amendment and protecting our sacred American right to vote, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and standing up for the religious liberty of our kids and seniors. But even with the many historic wins we've achieved, the battle is far from over. The attacks on our constitutionally protected rights persist. Countless unborn babies remain in jeopardy, and across the globe, innocent Christians are being targeted and killed across this country and around the world.

This fight isn't just the ACLJ's. It's all of ours. It belongs to every American who wants to preserve the values and beliefs on which this nation was founded. None of the victories we've won would have been possible without the unwavering support of ACLJ members and ACLJ champions. It's been an honor to fight for you all these years. Join us in fighting for freedom. Have your donation doubled at ACLJ.org/freedom.

Guest (Male): Right now, your most sacred rights are under attack. Your right to free speech, your right to worship, your right to educate your children the way you choose. If successful, these attacks will have a destructive impact on the future of our republic. We're fighting in courtrooms across the country to have a lasting impact, defending and upholding our values that this nation was founded on. From protecting the rights of kids to pray and share their faith.

The best thing you can do is take a stand. There's nothing too small. A kid who wants to start a Bible club is how the ACLJ got its first case to the US Supreme Court. And today, we would take that case as long as we needed it. Every victory makes a major impact, and it's only possible because of the support of ACLJ members and champions. This is your opportunity to double your impact to defend freedom for you, your children, and generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible donation doubled today.

Logan Sekulow: We're back. Phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. We've got half the lines still open. And look, we've got some special content that I brought just for you today that our team put together. It's Stop the Madness week. We're also going to showcase the work of the ACLJ here in very unique ways, of course, tying into March and the madness that happens in March.

And of course, there cannot be a more appropriate time than this week, as we have seen this madness sometimes resulting in violence creep its way throughout the country, throughout the world. And of course, the ACLJ has been involved in these issues from the local street preacher all the way to what's going on in Israel, what was going on in Iran. We have been involved in all of these topics, folks, for decades.

And without you, that doesn't happen. So I always want to make sure we showcase our work. It's like what they tell your kids now: when they've got to do math, show your work.

Will: That's not just now. They've always said show your work.

Logan Sekulow: No, now you've got to show all of those steps.

Will: Yep, this is called math class.

Logan Sekulow: No, this was that Jeb Bush math that they've added in. Remember? Common Core math. It's all different math.

Will: I think maybe you weren't in the best math class.

Logan Sekulow: I think you were in Florida. They were doing that early there. We didn't do Common Core. Okay, beyond that, I want to see some people in the chat. You know what I'm talking about. You've had to do homework with your kids and realize your math is different than their math. All right. That being said, the math that maths is when you support the work of the ACLJ and your donation is doubled throughout this month, but really during this week.

Stop the madness right now. Phone lines are open for you, and I'm going to play you a very special video presentation of some of the work of the ACLJ. I'm going to kick it over to Will because we're going to talk about the state of Georgia and some of the work the ACLJ has been doing there, again, on the individual basis all the way up.

Will: That's right. And once again, this is a case that we talked about. We actually had a victory in, but we will be proceeding with legal action because of the violation of rights that we have seen out of Georgia here. This involves a minister who expresses his pro-life views and actually went through the process to get a permit to do this. And in this city in Georgia, if you get a permit, they have a little clause that some like to call a heckler's veto. It says you can get the permit and you can do your demonstration, but if anyone complains, it's invalidated.

And then he got criminally charged because someone decided to complain. That's not really how the Constitution and the First Amendment works. And so what did we do? We first got a victory, got the charges gone. But now we have to take action because that can't stand. And so we have a little video presentation about this because it is once again as we talk about stop the madness and you see what's happening in places like suburbs of Atlanta and around this country. We talk about the school teacher in Texas that was said you can't be seen praying anywhere. That's the madness, and we are here to stop it. So take a look at this and then we'll talk to you on the other side.

Guest (Male): Jason is a passionate evangelist who works near an abortion clinic.

Jason: When the moms are coming in the driveway right here, we try to hand them information which is a gospel tract and pregnancy info. So it has information for our pregnancy center where they can go and get free ultrasound, free pregnancy care, everything's free.

Guest (Male): This is core to what the First Amendment is designed to protect, both his religious practice and his free speech. He wants to get out there and change hearts and minds.

Jason: Our pregnancy center in Atlanta, it actually helps the moms for two years. For two years they can get free diapers, wipes and clothes. So we are offering the tangible help, but we also want to offer them the spiritual help in sharing the gospel with them.

Guest (Male): Now the city of Forest Park has instituted a permitting scheme. That's completely fine. They're allowed to do that. And Jason, in an effort to follow the law, got one of those permits. And those permits originally said he was allowed to use amplification at a particular place and at a particular time. And he always dutifully obeyed those limitations on his permit.

Jason: We were just out here preaching one day like we like I've been doing for years and all of a sudden an officer came out and said we got a complaint. We need you to turn it down. And I said well multiple supervisors have been out here before and they said my volume's fine.

Guest (Male): The city of Forest Park, Georgia essentially put a heckler's veto into the permit, said if anyone complains about this permit, it's revoked. Well, of course the abortion clinic complained. They tried to hold him criminally liable and the ACLJ stepped in right away to make sure that that didn't happen.

Jason: They don't measure the sound out here. They don't use decibel meters. They don't measure the sound, none of that. It just all revolves around a complaint.

Guest (Male): It cannot be the case that speech which offends can be regulated and silenced more so than speech that is popular.

Jason: For two months I had my sound permit revoked. I wasn't able to be heard out here. And as we know when we went to court just recently, the charges were dismissed. So I feel like my free speech was violated.

Guest (Male): But the city still insisted on putting this illegal and unconstitutional restriction on his sound permits. So we are taking this to a federal lawsuit this week. We are going to vindicate Jason's rights in federal court. We're going to do whatever it takes.

Jason: The process is the punishment. You know we're going to charge you, we're going to cite you, we're going to drag you into court and then hey we'll just dismiss the charges and you know just caused people a lot of time and a lot of money.

Guest (Male): He has the right to speak out against abortion and the ACLJ is going to stand with him to make sure that that message gets out.

Jason: Those of us who are street preachers we want to come out and preach the gospel, preach the word of God and we want to see God convict their hearts and change their hearts, change their lives. And we see children saved, you know I see baby saved almost every week. As Christians we've got to do what we're called to do. We're in a spiritual battle and we need to be out here preaching the gospel and being a voice for the voiceless.

Logan Sekulow: So once again, you see the hard work of the ACLJ getting that dismissed but still fighting because we can do multiple things here at the ACLJ. We can bring you this analysis and have our experts on and talk about the threat of things like sleeper cells in this country. But our attorneys are still fighting daily for individuals like our client there and to showcase that even in areas where you would never think they're going to be constitutional violations trying to silence people expressing their faith and their First Amendment rights, that they're going to have things like a heckler's veto. But that's exactly what we're seeing.

And this happens all over the country, not just in places that you'd expect. This is obviously in the state of Georgia. This is outside of Atlanta. This is happening in your streets. And look, if there is going to be, and this is just truth, if there is going to be what looks to be these attacks and sleeper cells in the streets, not just in America but in the Western world, guess what we need more than ever?

You need these street preachers who are out there doing good work. You need people who are out there promoting life, getting people to pro-life pregnancy resource centers to provide the needs that they need, whether that is of course they do everything from prenatal to postnatal work, some incredible organizations that are under attack right now as well, some from their own state, some from their own government. We want you to be a part of that ACLJ team.

Look, the first half hour is coming to an end. Went by real fast. Second half hour is going to go by even faster because we've got Mike Pompeo and Rick Grenell joining us. If you want to be on the air, you've got to call me now because we're not going to have time to take a ton of calls today. We've got a packed back half of the broadcast. That's at 1-800-684-3110. But as we wrap up this first half hour, I'm going to ask you, we are halfway through the Stop the Madness week. Your donations are doubled right now.

So as we head into break and it's the shortest break of the show, by the time we say our last word on here, we have about 58 seconds until we are back on the air. I need you to go to ACLJ.org, scan the QR code that you see in front of you right now because this week, as we head to the end of the month, that's it, your donations are doubled. We only can offer that a few times a year where your donation is matched by another ACLJ donor who's willing to unlock their pledge. We have to be there for the gospel, for pro-life advocacy, for free speech, for religious liberty. Be a part of stopping the madness. Again, whether that's on the local level or what we see going on worldwide right now, every tax-deductible gift throughout this week is doubled dollar-for-dollar. Go to ACLJ.org/madness or just scan the QR code. Back in under a minute.

Guest (Male): Right now, your most sacred rights are under attack. Your right to free speech, your right to worship, your right to educate your children the way you choose. If successful, these attacks will have a destructive impact on the future of our republic. We're fighting in courtrooms across the country to have a lasting impact, defending and upholding our values that this nation was founded on. From protecting the rights of kids to pray and share their faith.

Every victory makes a major impact, and it's only possible because of the support of ACLJ members and champions. This is your opportunity to double your impact to defend freedom for you, your children, and generations to come. Go to ACLJ.org/impact and have your tax-deductible donation doubled today.

Logan Sekulow: We're back. Phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. We've got half the lines still open. And look, we've got some special content that I brought just for you today that our team put together. It's Stop the Madness week. We're also going to showcase the work of the ACLJ here in very unique ways, of course, tying into March and the madness that happens in March. And of course, there cannot be a more appropriate time than this week as we have seen this madness sometimes resulting in violence creep its way throughout the country, throughout the world.

And of course, the ACLJ has been involved in these issues from the local street preacher all the way to what's going on in Israel, what was going on in Iran. We have been involved in all of these topics, folks, for decades. And without you, that doesn't happen. So I always want to make sure we showcase our work. It's like what they tell your kids now: when they've got to do math, show your work.

Will: That's not just now. They've always said show your work.

Logan Sekulow: No, now you've got to show all of those steps.

Will: Yep, this is called math class.

Logan Sekulow: No, this was that Jeb Bush math that they've added in. Remember? Common Core math. It's all different math.

Will: I think maybe you weren't in the best math class.

Logan Sekulow: I think you were in Florida. They were doing that early there. We didn't do Common Core. Okay, beyond that, I want to see some people in the chat. You know what I'm talking about. You've had to do homework with your kids and realize your math is different than their math. All right. That being said, the math that maths is when you support the work of the ACLJ and your donation is doubled throughout this month, but really during this week.

Stop the madness right now. Phone lines are open for you, and I'm going to play you a very special video presentation of some of the work of the ACLJ. I'm going to kick it over to Will because we're going to talk about the state of Georgia and some of the work the ACLJ has been doing there, again, on the individual basis all the way up.

Will: That's right. And once again, this is a case that we talked about. We actually had a victory in, but we will be proceeding with legal action because of the violation of rights that we have seen out of Georgia here. This involves a minister who expresses his pro-life views and actually went through the process to get a permit to do this. And in this city in Georgia, if you get a permit, they have a little clause that some like to call a heckler's veto. It says you can get the permit and you can do your demonstration, but if anyone complains, it's invalidated.

And then he got criminally charged because someone decided to complain. That's not really how the Constitution and the First Amendment works. And so what did we do? We first got a victory, got the charges gone. But now we have to take action because that can't stand. And so we have a little video presentation about this because it is once again as we talk about stop the madness and you see what's happening in places like suburbs of Atlanta and around this country. We talk about the school teacher in Texas that was said you can't be seen praying anywhere. That's the madness, and we are here to stop it. So take a look at this and then we'll talk to you on the other side.

Guest (Male): Jason is a passionate evangelist who works near an abortion clinic.

Jason: When the moms are coming in the driveway right here, we try to hand them information which is a gospel tract and pregnancy info. So it has information for our pregnancy center where they can go and get free ultrasound, free pregnancy care, everything's free.

Guest (Male): This is core to what the First Amendment is designed to protect, both his religious practice and his free speech. He wants to get out there and change hearts and minds.

Jason: Our pregnancy center in Atlanta, it actually helps the moms for two years. For two years they can get free diapers, wipes and clothes. So we are offering the tangible help, but we also want to offer them the spiritual help in sharing the gospel with them.

Guest (Male): Now the city of Forest Park has instituted a permitting scheme. That's completely fine. They're allowed to do that. And Jason, in an effort to follow the law, got one of those permits. And those permits originally said he was allowed to use amplification at a particular place and at a particular time. And he always dutifully obeyed those limitations on his permit.

Jason: We were just out here preaching one day like we like I've been doing for years and all of a sudden an officer came out and said we got a complaint. We need you to turn it down. And I said well multiple supervisors have been out here before and they said my volume's fine.

Guest (Male): The city of Forest Park, Georgia essentially put a heckler's veto into the permit, said if anyone complains about this permit, it's revoked. Well, of course the abortion clinic complained. They tried to hold him criminally liable and the ACLJ stepped in right away to make sure that that didn't happen.

Jason: They don't measure the sound out here. They don't use decibel meters. They don't measure the sound, none of that. It just all revolves around a complaint.

Guest (Male): It cannot be the case that speech which offends can be regulated and silenced more so than speech that is popular.

Jason: For two months I had my sound permit revoked. I wasn't able to be heard out here. And as we know when we went to court just recently, the charges were dismissed. So I feel like my free speech was violated.

Guest (Male): But the city still insisted on putting this illegal and unconstitutional restriction on his sound permits. So we are taking this to a federal lawsuit this week. We are going to vindicate Jason's rights in federal court. We're going to do whatever it takes.

Jason: The process is the punishment. You know we're going to charge you, we're going to cite you, we're going to drag you into court and then hey we'll just dismiss the charges and you know just caused people a lot of time and a lot of money.

Guest (Male): He has the right to speak out against abortion and the ACLJ is going to stand with him to make sure that that message gets out.

Jason: Those of us who are street preachers we want to come out and preach the gospel, preach the word of God and we want to see God convict their hearts and change their hearts, change their lives. And we see children saved, you know I see baby saved almost every week. As Christians we've got to do what we're called to do. We're in a spiritual battle and we need to be out here preaching the gospel and being a voice for the voiceless.