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Logan Sekulow: Welcome to Sekulow. We have a packed hour today, but I'm here by myself in the studio today, so I'm going to ask for your help. If you want to call in, this is a great time to do it at 1-800-684-3110 to have your voice heard today. We'll be joined a little bit later by one of our attorneys as we have a major win out of Chicago regarding the street preachers. I don't want to spoil it, but again, I think you're going to be excited about this as things move forward.

We are covering some of the breaking news items happening today, as well as what's going on in Minnesota where you have Tom Homan saying we have decided to conclude in Minnesota our metro surge, Operation Metro Surge. We'll get into that towards the end of the broadcast of what's going on there. And the big story this morning is the SAVE Act. The House narrowly passed the Save America Act, which is a GOP-backed bill that would tighten up voter registration identification requirements.

We've talked about this over the last few days as the idea of voter ID becomes more prevalent. Some kind of standardized voter identification program. Of course, this is one of those issues that comes up it feels like time and time again, and no one has ever been able to give me a convincing reason why we should not have some kind of standardized identification program in terms of voting. I'm happy for you to call me and tell me why. Why you should not be required to show some kind of ID.

What this would do to be able to register to vote, you would need a government-issued ID and some one other form of verification. That could be a driver's license, birth certificate, passport, something like that to register. And then after that, a photo ID would suffice. I've never voted except for when I had to vote absentee when I was in college. I've never voted without the use of some form of identification. Here in Tennessee, I think it's probably the standard.

But here we are in this conversation which feels like it should not even exist, yet it still does. The reason why it continues to happen, it passed very narrowly and passed through the House. It will now move to the Senate. Though the Republicans hold a majority, we know that this would have to break the filibuster. There has been some concern with some conservatives and then there have been some liberals. We know people like John Fetterman who have said maybe it's time.

But the American people also say it's time by a major way. A major percentage of them believe there should be some sort of identification. When you break it down, a lot of people say this is to make sure that people who are here illegally still have some chance at voting. That's what a lot of people say, or the Democrats may say that this is racism. I know a lot of you listen to this show, watch us on YouTube or Rumble or Salem News Channel, and maybe you've personally said Logan always comes off like he's too bighearted sometimes and comes off like he is a little soft on some of these issues.

I actually have a pretty big issue with using race as a reason why certain things cannot happen, like being able to show an ID. I think when we start to trivialize people, when we start to break it down and make it seem like it's actually inherently racist to say the other way, to say that people of a certain background or of a certain color skin are not going to be able to figure out this complicated system. They're not going to be able to make it down to a DMV and get their identity.

It's itself disturbing, but that always seems to be the case. It always seems to be that they use some form of statement that you, as someone who is not racist, are probably watching this going, "Well, that inherently seems racist. Their logic seems racist." But here we are. I want to hear from you. What do you think about this? Do you think it has a chance of passing the Senate? 1-800-684-3110. I want you to also support the work of the ACLJ. When you hear a little bit later about one of our major victories, hopefully it gets you jazzed up and ready to give at aclj.org.

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Logan Sekulow: We are so excited to announce the ACLJ's brand new app. Completely redesigned to provide you with the best tools available to partner with us at the ACLJ. You can watch the daily Sekulow program, sign the petitions, customize your ACLJ membership experience, donate with the click of a button, and receive up to the minute critical updates that the mainstream media can't censor. Just scan the QR code on your screen or go to your phone's app store, search ACLJ, and click install. It's that simple.

The Sekulow phone lines are jammed and I appreciate all of you who decided you're going to call in today to help me out as I am here flying solo for the next hour. We do have one of our ACLJ attorneys, Liam, joining us in the next segment from Washington, DC. But here in our media center, it's just me today. Me and you. We're talking about, at first, the SAVE Act. A lot of you are also covering and wanting to know any information on the Nancy Guthrie situation.

We are not your number one source for that. However, if anything breaks, we do have it monitored and I'll make sure to let you know. We're not doing wall-to-wall coverage of it. I've always said I feel like you guys have a duty to you to provide not only news but how the ACLJ is involved in a lot of these things. But also, I believe you can take in more than one topic at a time. I don't know if the mainstream media always believes that because it always feels like they just jump.

They'll jump from Iran, they'll jump to now Nancy Guthrie. Before that, they'll go to Minnesota. It's never let's cover this holistically. It's always let's give people one thing and a helicopter camera for 24 hours a day and it's just not how we roll here. But of course what we're talking about right now is the SAVE Act which would require voter ID. It passed the House and now it moves to the Senate. Will it pass the Senate? I think that is up for debate. It's certainly not a guarantee.

Though the Republicans have the majority, of course there is the will they break the filibuster moment here. Will that be something they decide to do? We will just have to see as time moves on. However, there have been some Democrats who have shown that they actually may be in favor of this. You know why they feel that way? Some are rational. Others maybe are actually looking at the numbers and looking at the polls and looking at what the American people have to say.

I'm going to take us back just a couple days. A little flashback bite. Let's just hear this. This is on CNN. Okay, this is on CNN telling you the details of how the American people feel about voter ID and whether they are on the side of it or not because the Democrats would like you to believe that most people find this to be egregious and racist. But let's hear what CNN has to say.

Guest (Male): Look at all this polling on the screen going back since 2018. You'll notice on all of it, it's all north of 75%. 76%, 76%, 76%, 81%, and then 83% in the last year of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj. They favor photo ID to be able to vote.

Guest (Male): What about by party? What's the party breakdown?

Guest (Male): Normally you might expect there'd be a big divide by party where Republicans really for it and Democrats really against it. But not really here. I mean, just take a look here. Favor photo ID to vote. You've got 95% of Republicans, pretty much all of them. But even 71% of Democrats favor photo ID to vote. So again, Nicki Minaj posting that on X, and what you see is that the American people actually it's not really all that controversial. The American people are with Nicki Minaj whether they are Republican or even if they are Democrats. We're talking about seven in ten Democrats agreeing with Nicki Minaj that you in fact should show a voter photo ID to vote.

Logan Sekulow: Nicki Minaj has never been said more on this show than in the last 30 seconds I think, ever. Obviously she's become a voice in the conservative world which is wild, something I don't think anyone would have expected a number of years ago. But the fact that we just said Nicki Minaj 15 times in the last 30 seconds, what a world we live in, folks. However, he's not wrong. This has become commonplace. Most people, 70 plus percent. If you won any election by 70% in 2026, it would be considered the biggest landslide in our lifetime as we are so split and so divided by party unfortunately.

People were asked, including Senator John Fetterman. He was asked on Fox Business specifically about this and his response was nuanced, thinking about it, but also clearly looking at where people stand on this. Where people stand specifically even within his own district and within his own party. So let's now take a listen to this from Fox Business.

Guest (Female): What I don't understand, Senator, is why it is so difficult to get the SAVE Act into the portfolio and onto the floor. What's wrong with having an ID to vote? Chuck Schumer last week said if the SAVE Act even attempts to get to the Senate, it is dead on arrival. Why?

Guest (Male): Me as a Democrat, I do not believe that it's unreasonable to show ID just to vote. I remind everybody that less than a year ago in Wisconsin, they added that to the constitution by a 63% passing to put that in the constitution that you have to show ID to vote. They also elected a very, very liberal justice into their Supreme Court. So it's not a radical idea for regular Americans to show your ID to vote.

Logan Sekulow: Not a radical idea for regular Americans to show your ID to vote. I can tell you that that seems to be 100%, or it's certainly not a radical idea even if you disagree with it. A lot of you are calling in about this. Some I agree with, some I won't. But you know what? Let's go ahead and take them. It's okay if I don't. Again, the calls are not representative of all of the views of Logan Sekulow or the ACLJ. Let's let people talk and hear what they have to say because I want to hear from you. I want to encourage more people to call in. Jim's calling line one. Jim, go ahead.

Jim: Yes, sir. My comment is I'm 100% in favor of the picture voter ID, but it doesn't go far enough. There needs to be an IQ or a competency test for people that find out if they understand the history of our country, they understand the laws, they understand common sense. Then if they pass that, then an allegiance pledge. If they pledge allegiance to our country, many people here are treasonous, they're in favor of backing other countries more so than ours, politicians included. Then after you do the allegiance, then do a citizenship test. Make sure they are actually American citizens. Then give them a picture voter ID. Then they're ready to vote.

Logan Sekulow: Okay, Jim. I understand your concern. Maybe two out of three of those is not a bad idea. I don't think I would be getting into the mandatory IQ or civics test. I don't think that that's really how our voting rules should be. I don't believe that's how the constitution works. Look, there are some people also who are just bad test-takers. Maybe I'm one of them. You know what? I may not be able to vote under your rules because I'm not the greatest of test-takers in the world.

But I understand, Jim, what you're saying, what you feel like, you know, voting should maybe be a little stricter. I don't think that the access to voting should be stricter. I believe just simply making sure you are who you say you are and that you're voting in the proper district, that's enough for me. That's enough. I don't think we need to go as far as saying, oh, we got to make sure we have proper because then it gets so convoluted.

Then of course, Jim, what you said, if you're pledging allegiance to this country, flip it in a couple years when you have a Democrat president and all of a sudden you've got very different rules and regulations. I'm not putting any rules and regulations like that ever I would feel comfortable with on the books. However, if it's just simply to show an ID, that's 70% of Democrats, 95% of Republicans. Again, if that was the truth and that was something that got passed through a voted electoral election, you would have one of the bigger landslides in American modern political history if that was something that was voted on.

But they're going to spin it and they're going to spin it as somehow it's racist to do this. Again, I've actually said it's racist to have the other way around. That is always it feels like how the Democrats go. It's how a certain percentage of people, a certain color of skin, a certain bloodline has to vote or else they should be ostracized from their families or whatever it may be. We've seen big pushback to that. We saw a huge pushback to that in South Florida where the community there, the Latin community there was said, "No, I'm not voting just because you tell me how I'm supposed to vote." We've got a lot more calls coming in. Let's quickly take one. Let's go to Deborah real quick in North Carolina. Deborah, go ahead.

Deborah: Hey guys, thanks so much for what you do. As an African American that grew up in the South in the 60s, I was glad to hear the comments that you made about requiring photo ID is racist. That is so insulting to me as an African American. It's insinuating that we're stupid. We can do anything else we want to do. We can get driver's licenses, ID, cell phones. But according to the Democrats, we don't have sense enough to get ID. Democrats have very seldom done anything but undermine the prosperity and well-being of the African American community and they've used us for years and I think that we are finally waking up.

Logan Sekulow: Deborah, I love that comment. You grew up in the South in the 60s. You understand the issues that came on. My family grew up in the South in the 60s. The stories I've been told, I understand though I was not there. I grew up in the South in the 80s and 90s. Still racism certainly existed but we lived in very diverse communities. I understand that there are certain situations where we do need to push back hard against things.

One of those things is when you're told a certain community based on the color of their skin is not smart enough, does not have the ability to do a simple task in 2026. That is deeply insulting, Deborah. I appreciate you calling in. We do have a couple phone lines open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Gonna pivot a little bit in the next segment. We're going to talk to one of our ACLJ attorneys, Liam, who's got a big update, one of our street preacher cases in Chicago. We're going to continue though to take calls on this subject as well as we're going to bounce around, maybe do a little bit of what's going on in Minnesota as Tom Homan says Operation Metro Surge is concluding. We'll talk about that coming up as well. 1-800-684-3110. Be right back.

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Guest (Male): For decades now, the ACLJ has been on the front lines protecting your freedoms, defending your rights in courts, in Congress, and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member, thank you. And if you're not, this is the perfect time to stand with us at aclj.org where you can learn more about our life-changing work. Become a member today at aclj.org.

Logan Sekulow: Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are completely jammed. We'll open some up later in this segment and also later in the broadcast so don't worry, you'll have time to give us a call. We're talking about the SAVE Act, but I did want to pivot a bit to the work of the ACLJ. Always important to know what is going on and this is a victory. This is a good moment. We are joined by one of our ACLJ attorneys, Liam. I think you need to give us a bit of a background on what this case is and then of course what just happened.

Liam: Absolutely. Last year, I think a lot of our viewers will remember it, we had a group of young street preachers, evangelists, who hung out in the city of Chicago and they were harassed, they were eventually arrested by Chicago police in what can only be described as an unconstitutional assault on the First Amendment. The ACLJ stepped in and we represented them, one in their criminal case, we got those charges dismissed. But then also, we're suing the city of Chicago. We said that this has to stop and the First Amendment means that these kids have a right to preach on the street. We got some major developments this week.

Logan Sekulow: All right, let's break it down because I know a lot of people have been following this. If you're supporters of the ACLJ, you may have gotten emails about it. You may have gotten blogs about it. You may have read about it, you may have heard about it here on this show. When you hear about these street preacher cases specifically in places like Chicago, when you know when you visit one of these major cities you're likely going to encounter a lot of different views, a lot of different people with a lot of different points of view, often with small amplifiers. It's honestly sort of the charm and the nature of a big city. But the ACLJ had to get involved directly and right now today is a significant victory for us.

Liam: That's right. The big city is full of sights and sounds and yet what we saw was a really disturbing pattern. There's only one that Chicago police were targeting and that was the Christian voices, the voices of the good news trying to fulfill the Great Commission. The first thing the city of Chicago did was they didn't respond to our lawsuit in any meaningful way. They filed a motion to dismiss. They said that it was a meritless lawsuit and that the judge should throw it out.

We have been fighting this case for months now. We had been waiting to hear what the judge said and it was a major victory. The judge ruled against their motion, held that all of our most important claims—free speech, freedom of religion, retaliatory arrest, unlawful arrest—that all those claims can proceed. We're going to start the grueling process of litigation, but that means discovery. We'll see what that means and we can really start to look at the city of Chicago, see what was going on behind the scenes, what was motivating these arrests. I think I speak for everyone on the ACLJ team working on this case, we are absolutely just chomping at the bit to get into Chicago and start to vindicate these young men's rights.

Logan Sekulow: When you hear that, when you see these moments and you see that a court's going to say they have their First Amendment right, it does give you a little bit of hope that these cases can be won because of course they have their First Amendment right to do this. This is why the ACLJ team is there. It's why you've been there for the last 36 plus years handling cases like this. You may hear about the big ones, when you hear about the ACLJ representing countries, representing presidents, representing on the world stage at the UN.

But it is very important, just as important for people like you and for the other ACLJ attorneys to go into a city like Chicago representing a handful of people because we know the impact doesn't just end up on them. And of course that happens at no cost to the client because of people who support this organization, the ACLJ, which of course is our media side and our legal side. If you like this show and you like our legal work, it doubles everything. It really helps out all of it when you support the work of the ACLJ.

There is some glimmer of hope when your team is able to get in there and cause these victories. I am so happy when people call in and support this show and support what we're doing here not just financially, but even just with your prayers. Because these are still happening. I think a lot of people may think that these cases should have been long gone 30 years ago, Liam, but we're still dealing with them on what feels like a daily or weekly basis.

Liam: That's right. I'm here in our Washington, DC office and earlier this week I've been going back and forth with a lot of people on the hill for some important filings we'll be doing later this week. In between all of that, I get this email in my inbox and I check it and it's from the Chicago court and your face just lights up. As important as what we do here on the hill is, as important as some of our big clients are, I know these three young men. I've spent time with each one of them and it was such a privilege to be able to pick up the phone, call them, and let them know the good news which was that their claims against the city of Chicago are being taken seriously.

In hindsight sure, it was obvious that these were meritorious claims. It was obvious we would get our day in court. But until the ink is dry and you know that the judge has ruled on it, you never know. I want to personally thank everyone who makes that possible. These are young men who are driven by the gospel. They couldn't afford attorneys like us if we're just being frank. But they have a world-class legal team behind them and so to everyone who makes that possible, that's a personal thanks from me and I know our clients sincerely appreciate it.

Logan Sekulow: These are real news stories that are happening in our organization. We'll tell you about what's happening in the news, we'll give you our commentary. I always will provide those updates as needed here on this show. But we always want to make sure we pivot to talk to people in our ACLJ team. All of that happens 100% of it happens because of you. If you are watching right now and you saw like a YouTube ad, understand that yes, do we get such a small amount of YouTube funding? It doesn't even pay for a salary of one of our team members.

If you hear a radio ad in your local market, if you're listening on radio and you see or hear an ad for any sort of product, that goes to the network. That doesn't go to us. Often we're paying to be on your network so I can say this to you. So I can say this moment and say I need you to support the work of the ACLJ right now. I need you to become an ACLJ Champion. That is someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. It's easy. You can sign up at any level. We don't say you're only a champion if you give $200 a month. You could give $5 a month, which is our minimum just due to processing fees.

You can do that. Give monthly. Become an ACLJ Champion today. We have about 20,000 ACLJ Champions. That is a very small amount honestly compared to those that give one time a year. Tens of thousands of people do that. But only 20,000 give on that monthly basis. I'd love to see that number grow. And of course you can cancel anytime and you could be a part of the ACLJ team. As we head into break and head into the second half hour, we only take a one-minute break. In that one-minute break I am going to encourage you to make a move if you can and support the work of the ACLJ. Be a part of it. Celebrate with our team by supporting the work of the ACLJ. We'll be right back. Second half hour coming up in less than a minute.