Countdown 2 Eternity

Narrator: Welcome once again to Countdown to Eternity with Pastors James Kaddis and Tom Hughes. A weekly radio ministry from Calvary Chapel Signal Hill. Together, Tom and James examine current events and connect what's going on in our world to Bible prophecy. Let's lean in and listen.

James Kaddis: Well, hello, my dear brothers and sisters! I want to welcome you to another very exciting episode of Countdown to Eternity because it's going to be exciting. Tom just came from overseas. He literally just got off a plane. He must be tired, which means we're going to have some fun. Isn't that right, Tommy?

Tom Hughes: I am very tired, but we are going to have some fun because we've got a lot to talk about. By the way, I do want to say hi to you, James Kaddis, from some fans in Singapore. Singapore! That's a long ways away from here, and I know that people from Singapore are going to be watching this right now.

So, a shout out. We had a great time there. I will tell you this much—nicest people I've ever met in my life. Overall, when you go to a country—I've been to a lot of places—it was just overall a wonderful time.

James Kaddis: Well, bro, I hope and I pray that lots of people over there got ministered to. I'm sure they did. God bless them. It's kind of humbling to hear that they listen to us in Singapore. Pretty crazy.

Tom Hughes: Well, let me just—I'm going to get you wound up with a few things, but I want to go here first. I'm going to be very careful on what I say, and I can't say too much. It has nothing to do with YouTube. This has to do with I don't want to get people in trouble or myself in trouble.

In conversations with some folks over there, what is coming—and the world is not prepared for it—the prophecy world is not prepared for it. Some people in Bible prophecy are, some people in the financial world are, but it's a very small amount.

Blockchain is coming. I could say—there's so much more I want to say, but the warning is very evident. I had some excellent conversations in private with people in Singapore. It's coming. It's coming much faster than people know. On a conservative side, you've got two years at most.

That might sound alarming to people, but it's at this point where people need to be very well aware of what's coming. I want to say this before we go any further, James: blockchain in and of itself is not the mark of the beast. So, if we wake up tomorrow and find ourselves in a digital world, it does not mean you missed the rapture.

You've got to be able to separate and realize things are moving forward. The way that the economy has been done is about ready to change. James, you know a lot about the economy. There's trouble in the economy. You've got to be smart right now, very smart, and understand what's coming, but you've got to be prepared.

We could be here for a while going through some things, and people are going to be freaked out. We are about ready to be launched into a digital world.

James Kaddis: A lot of people don't know what blockchain is. A lot of people know what blockchain is. I just don't think people understand the significance of it and how it works. In the Bible prophecy world, I think people don't understand how much of an accelerator that can actually end up being, especially if you're talking about a totalitarian regime that wants to take full advantage of a mechanism that encourages independence and mistrust.

Without getting into all the details of how blockchain works and all that kind of thing, it's not just valuable because it's blockchain. It's valuable only when multiple parties have to share and verify records. That's where it becomes really valuable, because when they do this, they don't want to be able to fully trust one another or one central operator controlling the whole system.

That's where it becomes extremely valuable. Now, if I'm an antichrist, a future antichrist leader, I'm probably not going to be a big fan of blockchain, and I'm probably going to use blockchain to be the tool that accelerates the path to what I know is going to happen in Revelation 13.

Let me just say this without even being asked the question: could blockchain become the big thing? Yeah. It could become the biggest thing because of all the fraud and the craziness and all the other things that are happening. Where do we start, bro? Do we want to describe what a distributed database looks like and what it means in cryptography?

Is that something that we should talk about, or do we take the application of it? There are a lot of things, bro—economic incentives, all kinds of things that tie to it.

Tom Hughes: The application is necessary, because some of the technology behind it—most people aren't going to get it anyway. I mean, I'm still learning about it. I'm learning about it all the time. It's nonstop.

But with this, what it does is it will change the dynamic of everything because everything is going digital. I think we all—everybody gets that. We are digital ID in the UK, digital money, everything's going to be—there's going to be digital transferring of funds and so forth. With this, the dynamic changes.

I'll tell you some things off the record, James. I can't tell you everything right now because I can't. But simply, we talked about where the money is going, and China and Taiwan—in that whole region—are much more advanced in this area than the Western world is.

I asked the question to someone: where's the power base going to be? It's going to be in the Gulf States. They are far further along with this technology for financing and economics than the US or Europe are.

Most of your viewers remember when the UAE said, "Hey, we're not going to be trading in petrodollars anymore. We're going digital." Saudi Arabia has been planning this for years. So has the UAE, the Gulf States, and so has the Far East. They're much more advanced than most people realize.

James Kaddis: The petrodollar is deeply misunderstood by a whole lot of people. It's a phrase that we tend to use to speak of the strength of US currency within the context of energy consumption, but the phrase "petrodollar" or the word "petrodollar" that we oftentimes use is a lot more consequential with respect to the law that used to prohibit Saudi Arabia from buying US treasuries or bonds.

When we started digging oil in Saudi Arabia and we started beginning to build in Saudi Arabia, what we refer to as the petrodollar was the mechanism by which Saudi Arabia would end up buying treasuries and bonds, basically, in order to be able to take ownership in exchange for energy in a way that was not in violation of United States law.

So, when we talk about petrodollar, the way that we understand the fiat currency known as the US dollar is greatly determined by how—at least in the Middle East when it comes to energy—how energy is traded for with the purchase of treasuries and bonds and so on and so forth.

When Saudi Arabia did not renew the contract that involved the purchase of treasuries and bonds, it was more of a reflection of how the law has changed with respect to how things can be purchased, not necessarily a repudiation on the subject of the United States dollar, although the reason why it was viewed as a repudiation on the United States dollar is because of the person who was president at the time that the document in effect was not renewed.

I'm oversimplifying the discussion, but the bigger issue with respect to how blockchain comes into play here is far more deeply consequential than just the transfer of currency. This is very difficult for people to be able to understand if they can't even define it.

Just for the purpose of being very brief and giving people a better understanding of how blockchain works, we have to understand that a blockchain, if you were to define it—and I know some people are going to beat me up on this a little bit because I'm trying to oversimplify this—is basically a sequence of batches of data that we refer to as blocks.

Each block contains records or transactions. It also creates a timestamp or what we would refer to as an ordering reference. An ordering reference is difficult to explain what that means. It is by far a cryptographic fingerprint of the previous block.

So, without me getting into all kinds of complexity, you can have block one and a hash, and then block two would include block one with a hash, and then block three would include block two with the hash, and block four would include block three with the hash.

What does that mean? First and foremost, other data is needed by the network in order to maintain the information that comes from a blockchain. Because every block points back to the one before it, the blocks form a chain, and a simplified structure like the one that I just described helps to explain why it's so valuable.

Perhaps the best way of putting it is like this to anybody who doesn't know anything about it: changing an old block changes its fingerprint. You can't find an old block in a blockchain and change it without breaking the reference in every block after it.

So, that makes tampering detectable. It's literally impossible to break a block and not get caught doing it. So, it doesn't mean historical data is mathematically impossible to change. It doesn't mean that at all. But what it does mean is that changing it becomes increasingly difficult, and when I say that, I mean expensive.

It becomes very obvious and, by the way, very politically unacceptable, especially considering what other foreign governments are doing, like China and what they're doing with the CCP. It's very interesting. Depending on the blockchain that exists, you can't do it.

The reason why it was invented is because of one simple fact: digital information is easy to replicate. It's super easy to copy. So, it creates a problem for digital money because they do replicate digital money. Let's not get into Bitcoin mining—there's a discussion there.

I just probably offended a whole grip of people by saying that. A person could try to spend the same digital coin two times. Everybody refers to this as the double-spending problem. A traditional financial system would solve this through having a central authority for identification.

This is how CBDCs work, or Central Bank Digital Currencies. This is how they work. And those central authorities have typically been like a processing center, a bank, a clearinghouse, government sometimes do it, or even like an accounting system.

Bitcoin introduced a very practical way for a decentralized network to agree on who owns what. In other words, without relying on a central ledger or any central keeper. That's why Bitcoin has become so popular and so expensive, because you only have so much Bitcoin, so the more people want it, the more valuable it becomes.

Bitcoin was not the first attempt at digital money or cryptographic currency. It was the first major system to combine all of these ideas into a decentralized network. That decentralized network was really important because it was designed to resist double spending. If you tried to spend two times, you would break its value, in essence.

This is where we get the term "the ledger." This is why everybody calls blockchain the ledger, because the ledger records everything. It records anything that you could think of: Alice paid Bob, or some asset moved from one address to another, or a contract was just modified and it stayed—it was recorded here.

People will start signing contracts using blockchain mechanisms so that modifications of contracts won't be easy. They're creating tokens or things like that. This will be a big one—people will start voting using blockchain. Imagine that? You're not going to be able to change a vote that way.

Imagine if blockchain was used for that! I think that's been the big reason why the President of the United States has made such a big deal of it. Not every blockchain acts the same, and it doesn't behave the same, which is why we're still in the "Wild West" phase.

I hope I haven't confused people more by getting into this, but I think we have to talk about it because it is, in essence, the result of the discussions of Bitcoin and Ethereum and all—they all center around the same kind of thing.

They all relate to cryptographic hashing, and it's complicated. It's very, very complicated, especially when you start talking about public keys versus private keys and wallets and what those mean. I mean, bro, I could go on and on—custodial wallets... it gets crazy. It gets really, really nuts. But what does that mean here? For the right person, it means unmitigated power.

Tom Hughes: This is why people need to be alerted to what is coming. The ability of a system is coming. It looks like this is the technology that's going to be used, and it's a system that you will not be able to escape from. One thousand percent, bro.

James Kaddis: You just did in 30 seconds what I took ten minutes to describe.

Tom Hughes: We probably should do a program sometime with a little bit of going down the application a little bit more, but I have more questions to ask you about more topics about other stuff. But when we see what's coming with AI and then you throw in quantum computing into it, there is no escape apart from the Lord Jesus Christ.

People need to be aware it's going to change. But in and of itself, it is not the mark of the beast. This is technology, but technology that gives the ability of Revelation chapter 13 all the teeth that's necessary that causes no one to be able to buy or sell unless they worship the beast or his image. When you look at Daniel chapter 7, this final beast system has these huge iron teeth. It gives the teeth that are necessary.

James Kaddis: The summary on quantum computing is simple, and I should be able to describe it to you within a few sentences. Quantum computing doesn't mean you read email faster. If you took a quantum computer and you put it down within the context of regular everyday use, it's kind of worthless.

Quantum computing is a big deal because of the way that it actually deals with cryptography. Quantum computing can, by a million times faster than the greatest supercomputer out there, break algorithms. So, that's where it gets kind of—AI and quantum computing in and of themselves are not the mark of the beast, obviously, as you said.

But goodness gracious, bro, what they can do, what they are capable of in being able to hand power. A traditional—let me just say this—a traditional computer, the one that's on my wrist, the one that's in your phone, the one that's on your laptop, they can process information step by step. That's what they do.

Quantum computers analyze enormous numbers of possibilities all at the same time. It doesn't just say, "I do this, then I go to this, then I go to this, then I go to this." There's a limitation created by general computers that do that.

When quantum computers do this, it allows them to solve certain problems at speeds that could completely transform anything we know about encryption, or surveillance, or finance, or yes, even artificial intelligence. As a matter of fact, some people will argue that you can't reach AGI or ASI in artificial intelligence if you don't master how quantum computers process the data.

The mechanics of that are absolutely scary, because if you understand the core of what that means, bro, brace yourself. I made a video on this, by the way. I did a video on this a couple of weeks ago, which is why I sound somewhat reasonably researched on all this, because I had to spend some time really understanding it.

Quantum computing is in many ways simple to understand. As I said this before, a traditional computer works through all of the possibilities step-by-step, but a quantum computer processes it all at the same time. As a matter of fact, it runs faster when it processes all at the same time.

So, any problem that would take normal computers years to solve could be handled in literal seconds, in microseconds, by a quantum computer. Once that power gets combined with AI and there's no longer the need for a human being to ramp the problem...

Forget AI, how about we just talk about surveillance or digital currency? It's game over! Any kind of global data system, you put quantum computing in there, bro, forget enforcement activity—what about anticipatory action?

If you think the social credit system in China right now is no joke, wait until quantum computing meets it. You'll have a thought and you'll go to jail!

Tom Hughes: It's coming. One hundred percent. If we put it into the perspective of God is omnipotent, all-powerful, omniscient, all-knowing... you start looking at the attributes of God. Omnipresent... it's going to appear everywhere.

This technology gives Antichrist the ability to appear omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. This is what Satan does—he has to mimic so much so that I believe it's the technology that's going to allow this image of the beast to actually be what's going to appear to be a living image, but it's going to be an image of the beast.

Also, with the beast Antichrist and False Prophet, they will perform lying signs and wonders. There will be miracles, but they're going to be false. What's coming with technology is going to allow them to appear that way.

Why? Because the miracles of Jesus, the signs and wonders He did, the works that He did... Gospel of John is very clear: they testify of who Jesus is. Satan knows that's what the Bible tells us. The fake miracles will testify the Antichrist is the Christ and Jesus was a fake. That's what he's going at.

So, he must appear omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, having miracles and everything. A lot of it is really setting up the nation of Israel, who has the Bible that tells about these messianic attributes, what you expect from the Messiah.

He's going to appear to have all of these things. At a time, James, here's something else that Jesus didn't do in His first coming but He will in His second coming... One of the challenges that Jews have had with not accepting Jesus as Messiah when He came the first time is because He didn't conquer Rome.

They're looking for a Messiah that's conqueror. Antichrist comes on the system with all of the attributes, including fake miracles appearing to be real based on quantum and AI technology, and able to conquer the enemies of Israel.

You talk about the world being set up for Antichrist, who is going to be the false Christ. He's not going to be the real one, but that's where all of this is going at a time where with the technology of blockchain, where nobody can buy or sell unless they receive the mark... everything. It's a system that you won't be able to escape from.

James Kaddis: What makes it so unique about the Antichrist world, the Revelation 13 world, is not the fact that it's digital, not the fact that it's a tracking system. What makes it remarkable is there's no way to subvert it. That's where it becomes so remarkable.

Tom Hughes: There absolutely is no way. It's coming. We could get raptured tomorrow, but if this technology comes... if we wake up a year from now and all of a sudden it's implemented, banking changed as you know it, do not be afraid.

It doesn't mean you missed the rapture or anything. It's not yet the mark of the beast. Before we have the official mark of the beast, you have to have ten kings. Then something else you have to have besides the ten kings, then you also have to have an official beast.

There are certain things that aren't in play yet. This technology that we're talking about, friends, just be thinking. The Bible told us these things were coming. Check this out: ZeroHedge reports US officials say Iran's Ahmadinejad—remember him? Ahmadinejad, he was the president of Iran... what was it, 2010 or something like that?

Fifteen, twenty years ago. US officials say Iran's Ahmadinejad was a Mossad asset and met with intel chief in Hungary. Wow! ZeroHedge tends to report on true things.

James Kaddis: A lot of people look at this and go, "Oh, well, it's just another thing. He was a leader that kind of turned on Iran." No, it isn't. Where do we start with this, by the way?

Tom Hughes: I was gone, as you know. I just got back and I'm looking at all the news. Lindsey Graham died while I was gone.

James Kaddis: Yeah, there's a lot to say about that one, bro.

Tom Hughes: That was going to be my next thing I was going to throw out there. I know we don't have a lot of time left, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on both of these. I'm also going to throw this out because I've thought a lot about this, James.

I know we don't like to talk about these two people much, but Tucker Carlson and Kenneth Copeland... both evil people. I personally lean towards some kind of controlled asset with both of them. Things don't make sense.

James Kaddis: You may be right. I mean, especially after being at the trial in Provo, Utah, and I sat in that courtroom every day... that's a whole other issue that we'll talk about. So, back to Ahmadinejad then Lindsey Graham. Let's talk to Mahmoud.

I don't know when Mahmoud came into office. I do remember that he left office in 2013, because when he did, this is where we got introduced to the next butcher. We call him the Butcher of Tehran, Raisi, who died at the hands of an agent by the name of Heli Kopter.

Tom Hughes: Helicopter! Oh, I remember that one!

James Kaddis: But he was a big deal because he was notorious for... Mahmoud, he was notorious for threatening Israel all the time. He denied that the Holocaust even existed. He was a big supporter of Iran's nuclear program, and he actually presented himself as being one of the most staunch haters of Israel.

Tom Hughes: Also, one other thing I'll throw in there: he also was promoting the whole 12th Imam and the Mahdi thing.

James Kaddis: He was the big Mahdi thing. He might as well have said that he spoke to the 12th Imam. There are some funny jokes that go with that. There are some funny memes that have recently come out as a result of all this news. Why is it a big deal?

First of all, the big reason is it demonstrates the extraordinary depth of Israel's intelligence service. If you really think about it, the fact that they could inside Iran do that... If Mossad can establish a relationship with a former Iranian president, there is nothing they can't do.

They move around him internationally, they're communicating with him several years... the stories that we hear about how they controlled that asset was remarkable. Some people are even beginning to say that their relationship with Ahmadinejad was the reason why they were able to kill what's-his-name inside Iran when the new president came in, when Haniyeh came in.

That's one big reason. Second, I think that it reveals how the power structure of the IRGC, how broken it's become. Ahmadinejad eventually turned against all of the elements of the clerical establishment, which was the establishment that he was the closest to.

By the way, he was repeatedly blocked from returning to the presidency. Maybe because they saw this, I don't know. But I can tell you that Mossad, based on the reports, they apparently believed that his bitterness towards the regime—and he was very bitter towards the IRGC, especially the clerics, even the politics—I think they saw that as an opportunity, and they took advantage of it and they exploited it.

By the way, if this was about replacing the regime, let's just say that's all it was... it's not about merely destroying it. It's about creating something completely friendly to the cause of Israel, which would be the foundation for the fulfillment of what we see in Ezekiel 38, which is remarkable.

By the way, this is probably the biggest reason why it really means something: the psychological impact inside Iran over this could be just devastating. Can you imagine what that does? The IRGC's already splintered.

There's already things like paranoia and all that stuff happening. Right now more than ever, we're seeing it. We're watching these purges taking place. We're seeing all these accusations being made. The internal instability that's happening right now is unbelievable.

Whether or not the story's completely true or not, we're already watching it happen. I think that's important. By the way, this is not Hollywood material anymore. This is something that we have confirmation of. This is something that we actually know.

It's a big deal because Ahmadinejad was one of the biggest, most consequential public faces concerning the hate of Israel. If Mossad was able to turn him and cultivate him, or let's just even say they were able to seriously negotiate something with him, forget turning him... could you imagine the capability that Israel has to penetrate at this level? It's just striking. It's unbelievable.

Tom Hughes: This whole story is a reminder that truth is stranger than fiction. Hollywood would do well to look at some true things and make movies on them instead of just...

James Kaddis: That would be one of the most interesting movies ever made. The producers would probably get killed making it, but hey!

Tom Hughes: Well, when the Godfather was made, the first one, you heard the story behind that one, right? I watched it on a plane a few years ago because you're on those long planes. It was actually really good and kind of scary.

But in that, what took place in it—I read a lot about it, got the background—was so real and so true to life that there were genuine threats made where finally the mob boss or whoever it was had to get involved and say, "Okay, we give you the green light. Yes, you can."

Seriously, it was that real. So, that was the Godfather one. Anyway, enough of that. My mom wouldn't let me watch it, so I had to wait until I was sixty to watch it. So, anyway, there's just wild stuff that's happening. Lindsey Graham dies while I'm gone.

James Kaddis: He's dead at age 71. Two days after his 71st birthday, by the way.

Tom Hughes: Everything makes you wonder what the heck is what. I mean, people die, though. They do. So, I don't want to get too far out there. I don't know all the stories. I know people start sending me stuff like they send you stuff, right? All the theories. So, what do you know, or what are your thoughts behind that?

James Kaddis: The facts center around the fact that Lindsey Graham died suddenly after suffering what was called an aortic dissection. The official preliminary finding points to some kind of severe cardiovascular disease, but that isn't what necessarily got him.

He had just returned from Ukraine. He was pushing all these major sanctions against Russia. The timing, obviously the timing of it all has generated great speculation. But aortic dissection is weird, man. That is such a weird thing to be able to describe.

The only reason why I know it is because I've studied it. Let me do this. I'm going to grab something as a prop here. This is my roll of paper towels that is under my desk. Let me tell you how an aortic dissection works.

Let's just pretend this is your artery, the inside of your artery where blood flows, and then this is sort of like the aortic wall, so to speak. This is like the wall that surrounds it. What will end up happening with an aortic dissection is this little cardboard piece that you see here, it's going to change shape eventually.

Eventually, it will change the shape so badly that it will block blood from flowing into this hole and it will flow into these little parts right here and begin to tear up. It'll begin to dissect. Once that begins to happen, you really won't know it's happening, especially if you have high blood pressure.

There will come a point in time where all of this gets so badly damaged that no more blood goes through this hole anymore, and the blood starts flowing outside. Now, you are going to feel the effects of what might feel like some kind of cardiac event, and by the time you feel that, it's too late.

By the time you feel that, you're dead. Think about it like this: the heart pumps roughly 6.2 liters of blood per minute, I think is the number. So, if you're beginning to feel that way and if you immediately respond by getting in an ambulance and going to the hospital, you won't make it.

That's what happened to Lindsey Graham. Now, if he had an aortic dissection while he was in the middle of an operation by a cardiothoracic surgeon working on him, he might live. He might make it. So, it was interesting. Then to make things worse, you've got that eerie AI Lego movie that Iran released. Did you see that?

Tom Hughes: No, I heard some about it.

James Kaddis: Iran does these AI Lego things, and they did this AI Lego movie of Lindsey Graham in his house at night playing around with a doll. I think the implication was he's messing around with little girls, but he's playing with a doll and having fun, and then he falls on the carpet, and then the ambulance comes to get it, and then while he's on the ambulance ride, the nurse basically kills him.

So, it's basically the IRGC saying, "We did this." It's them capitalizing on a propagandist opportunity. But as unsexy as it sounds for lack of a better term, he died of natural causes. Very sad, but he died of natural causes.

Tom Hughes: Which that's what happens—people die every day. You being a pastor, me being one, you see it all the time. It happens to young people, happens all different ages.

But we live in a world where everything becomes a conspiracy theory. Doesn't matter what it is, it's just a regular matter of life and death, and it's going to turn into something far greater.

It's all about: brace yourself. Antichrist technology is here.

Tom Hughes: It's here, it's coming, but quite frankly, nobody knows if they're promised tomorrow, too, like Lindsey Graham. So, you still need to know Christ now. Make sure that you know Him, and then also be prepared for what He told us is still coming.

Some of these things that are in the news right now can be a little bit scary, but if you know the Bible, Jesus warned us it will look like this, not so we would be afraid. He didn't say, "Be afraid, be very afraid." It was just the opposite.

Luke 21, Jesus says men's hearts will fail them from fear of what's coming upon the planet. In other words, they'll have heart attacks. They're going to be so afraid.

But you, for His people, when you see these things begin to take place, look up, lift up your head, because your redemption draws near. Men will be afraid of what they see, but if you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you take His prophetic word seriously, you're going to go, "Wait a minute, He told us so I don't have to be afraid. I just need to be equipped and prepared."

James Kaddis: Amen to that, bro. I couldn't agree with you more. Well, I didn't plan on this being this heavy. I think that's a good last word. More than ever, we have to look up and we have to trust in the Lord, knowing what is happening, knowing where we're at, knowing what is taking place. Christ could come at any moment, and the big question is: are you ready? I hope you are.

Tom Hughes: Amen. Are you ready? By the way, you're going to be at the "Are You Ready?" conference. I just thought of that.

James Kaddis: Is that what it's called? It's called the "Are You Ready?" conference?

Tom Hughes: It's called "Are You Ready?" End of August.

James Kaddis: I got something going on, sorry, bro. I have to be at a conference in Santa Barbara, I can't do that.

Tom Hughes: Santa Barbara! So, it's you, David Tal, Brent Holthaus, myself, and—I told you this—KGB, KGB's most wanted, and you know who else is going to show up? Who's going to be there on a panel with me? I'm going to be asking questions is Kathy Ireland. Remember Kathy Ireland? You might be too young.

James Kaddis: Sure, of course I remember Kathy Ireland! What are you talking about?

Tom Hughes: So, Kathy Ireland's going to be there, KGB's most wanted, we're doing a panel going on. You, David Tal, Brent Holthaus... it's going to be pretty good.

James Kaddis: She did the Rose Parade one year.

Tom Hughes: Did she? Yeah. So, she's got great insight, Bible prophecy... she knows what's going on with the Bible. It's August 29th.

James Kaddis: Was Kathy Ireland always a believer?

Tom Hughes: She became a believer very young. She has an incredible testimony. She became a supermodel and I think she is one of the richest self-made women in the entire world.

James Kaddis: Bro, does she want to donate to our church building?

Tom Hughes: You can ask her when you see her August 29th. I'm not going to ask her. But she's a solid—not just a solid believer, she's able to connect Bible prophecy. Her testimony's off the charts because there are very few people in the world that will have had lived in a position like she has or anything at all.

James Kaddis: How do you find these people?

Tom Hughes: God's good to me. I connect—I don't know, God's given me the ability to connect this person to that person. So, it's just, "Hey, let people hear from her." So, that's what's going on there. It's going to be a phenomenal conference in Santa Barbara. She will be there along with others, and we're going to be doing the KGB's most wanted with some that you've met.

James Kaddis: Yeah, and I'm telling you, the people that are coming... these are amazing people. They are real people who suffered for Christ. You guys are going to be so blessed hearing from them.

Tom Hughes: And also the warnings that are coming about what's happening right here in America right now are going to come through loud and clear during that panel time.

James Kaddis: I have a lot of respect for that family. They're going to sound the alarm. "You better—this is what happened and this is what's happening right here, and here's what you need." Amen. And then when is the next thing happening at my church?

Tom Hughes: You let me know!

James Kaddis: No, you were going to let me know! Is this still being recorded? Well, let's say goodbye to everybody. We'll let everybody know next week what's going on. We'll figure it out next week. All right, bye everybody!

Tom Hughes: All right guys, we love you. God bless you. Hope you enjoyed the episode. Christ is coming soon—don't ever forget that. Bye-bye.

Narrator: You're listening to Countdown to Eternity with Pastors James Kaddis and Tom Hughes. Online at countdown2eternity.com. You can listen to this episode again right there at countdown2eternity.com.

I should also mention Tom Hughes is online at hopeforourtimes.com. Take a look at his available resources and some of the top stories at hopeforourtimes.com. Pastor James has a new book called The Last Book.

Revelation isn't a book of fear, it's a book of hope. The Last Book is a guide to Revelation, giving you what you need to know about Revelation, the Rapture, and the end times. Learn what the Bible says about the days we're in and what God's promise is for believers in The Last Book by James Kaddis.

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