Countdown 2 Eternity

Voiceover: Welcome once again to Countdown to Eternity with pastors James Kaddis and Tom Hughes, a weekly radio ministry from Calvary Chapel Signal Hill. Together, Tom and James examine current events and connect what's going on in our world to Bible prophecy. Let's lean in and listen.

James Kaddis: Well, hello, my dear brothers and sisters. I want to welcome you to another episode of Countdown to Eternity. I am with the great Tom Hughes. We recorded two episodes, which means I missed you last week and that wasn't fun. I like seeing your handsome face.

Tom Hughes: Well, that's very kind of you. But you had a great guest on. I saw it, as I was gone for a whole week, Jay Smith.

James Kaddis: Yeah, I had Jay Smith on. We recorded so we were on time with everybody, but I miss you.

Tom Hughes: You're very kind, and there are people in Alaska that even know you and like you. Imagine that. They're amazingly crazy, that's all I can say. But it's great being back. As you know, I'll be in Israel, and hopefully I'll be able to film something with you when in Israel. The time situation is a problem. The last time I filmed with you, it was 3:00 in the morning, and I wasn't enjoying it.

James Kaddis: It wasn't 3:00 in the morning for me.

Tom Hughes: It was 3:00 in the morning for me. I remember staying at the hotel, up at 2:00, walking around trying to find a place that I could record without going outside. It was nuts.

James Kaddis: All right, well, we have a lot to talk about, and I know you've got some stuff. So let's run with that.

Tom Hughes: Let's just start off and get James all wound up. Peter Thiel says the only real way to slow AI is a one-world government. In theory, this is a direct quote from him: "You could slow AI down if you had genuine deep cooperation around the whole world, but I think that would require a one-world government with real teeth and real force. The sort of classical liberal part of me thinks that is almost like jumping from the frying pan into the fire and that the cure, a one-world government, is worse than the disease of the AI itself."

Then, of course, you can have a fake global government where we have a lot of conferences to discuss it, a lot of somewhat empty statements that get put out. Then there's also, of course, a risk that it ends up being slowed down in the West and not in China.

His warning is real. I think you and I would warn about these things all the time. He's saying the cure they're going to come up with is a one-world government. It sounds like we're watching a James Bond movie or just whatever, and you're looking at this stuff going, "this is just nuts," but it's real. This is a real conversation going on right now.

James Kaddis: I don't know if people know who Peter Thiel is, so just for the benefit, because this is critical and I want to contextualize this. People ought to know a little about him, and once you know a little about him, only then will you recognize just how serious this is. First of all, he's not a millionaire tech investor; he's a billionaire tech investor. He's the guy that co-founded PayPal. He's also, as many of you know, the co-founder of Palantir.

That's really interesting because Palantir specializes in combining massive amounts of data for governments. This is what Palantir does. They do it for governments, they do it for militaries, like literally government militaries all over the world, intelligence agencies. Palantir has technology all up in every three-letter agency that we have in this country, and they also bring services like that to large institutions.

When we start talking about the private sector joining up with a one-world government environment, these guys stand at the center of it. Palantir functions as an apt demonstration of how technologically possible it is to centralize everything like surveillance, identification, tracking, and even decision-making. It is the epitome, the gold standard of everything that we think about when we talk about the social credit system.

By the way, you know this, I know this, we've talked about this to our audience, but he has spent publicly for years talking about the Antichrist. He's been talking about the one-world government, probably not as clearly as he's been saying it lately. The guy regularly talks about technology and the end times. Do you remember in 2005? I think you remember this. He gave either a three or four-part lecture on that subject, specifically on the Antichrist.

He says that the Antichrist is a real end-times totalitarian ruler. He doesn't look at it as a symbol or a force. This is about as real as it gets.

Tom Hughes: In that speech, he quoted 2 Thessalonians chapter 2. He also quoted 1 Thessalonians chapter 5 about peace and safety, then sudden destruction. He goes through it, so he has a working knowledge of eschatology. He sees himself as a part of the fulfillment of Daniel chapter 12:4, even though he doesn't really understand the context of Daniel 12:4 with the whole idea of them running to and fro and knowledge being increased. It speaks more of knowledge of the word of God, but still, in general, he sees himself as the fulfillment of all of that. He looks at it as being fulfilled through me and my company and many others around me that are doing this kind of thing.

James Kaddis: It's obvious that he watches some prophecy messages. There is some of it that's wrong too, which leads me to believe there are certain things he's watching. Like you said, Daniel chapter 12, he has totally out of context. That's clearly not what that's speaking of.

Tom Hughes: But on him, we can even take it a little bit further. There's people in the prophecy world that have taken the things that he's said and they've gone so far as to say Peter Thiel's the Antichrist. Well, just because of what he said, I'm not going to play that "pin the tail on the donkey" game.

James Kaddis: He doesn't meet the biblical precedent to be the Antichrist, but a lot of people do say that.

Tom Hughes: I've got to bring this up too. Speaking of that, we also read in Daniel chapter 11 where it comes to Antichrist. You know this well, you and I both dealt with this so many times, where it says he does not have the desire of women.

James Kaddis: They think he's gay. That's not what it means.

Tom Hughes: It has nothing to do with Antichrist being homosexual, just like Daniel chapter 12:4 has nothing to do with technology and traveling. That's not what either of those have to do with. Daniel chapter 11, speaking of the desire of women and Antichrist not having the desire of women, that is not a passage that is talking about sexual preference. That's not what's going on there. The passage is talking about him exalting himself above all gods, him being the God of heaven. That "desire of women" is a Jewish idiom for a Jewish woman to give birth to the Messiah. So there's no thought of a Messiah apart from himself is what that's speaking of. It has nothing to do with sexual preference.

Read it in context and you go, "Wait a minute, you're right, this isn't about sex." Daniel chapter 12 is not about technology and traveling. Daniel asks the specific question, "Tell me, what will these things be? How's it going to come about? Fill me in. Give me the word and everything." Daniel, shut up and close the words until the time of the end. Many will run to and fro and knowledge will increase, but shut up these words. It's not for you to know. The wicked will see it and will not understand, but the wise will see it and they will understand.

What did Daniel want to know? What's the Tribulation going to be like? The people, a direct quote out of the book of Amos, running to and fro is running to and fro through the Word to get the correct biblical prophetic understanding of what's going on. It has nothing to do with technology or air travel, and I know that's going to bother some people, but those are both passages. The Antichrist could be gay, we don't know that, but Daniel chapter 11 has nothing to do with that kind of stuff. That's not what it's about.

James Kaddis: Keep this in mind. We can get into the technical side of this for just a second because it's really important and a lot of people look at this and they run with it. The phrase is "neither shall he regard the God of his fathers... nor the desire of women." Not the desire for women, it's the desire of women. Meaning the whole idea in the Jewish mind and the Jewish heart is that every Jewish woman has always desired to be the one who would bring birth to the Messiah. That's the actual picture. It doesn't refer to that.

By the way, it's so interesting because even if you take the old school Tammuz association with it, you still look at it that way. The context is really important. What does he disregard? He disregards the God of his fathers. He disregards any god, for that matter. It says he's going to magnify himself above all deities. I think that's probably the picture that it's drawing. So when it talks about the desire of women, it has nothing to do with this sexual orientation. In other words, he's not concerned about the push or the pull that people have concerning the Messiah because he's going to replace him. That's the picture.

Tom Hughes: Exactly. Hence, he's the one who sits in the temple and demands to be worshipped as God. All of this is his attempt to usurp the authority of the true Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. That's what Daniel chapter 11 is talking about, not whether or not the guy likes dudes. It's unfortunate. So there's a lot of these things, like the Chinese army of 200 million soldiers. That's another ridiculous one. So there's a lot of these things that have been taken out of context. Videos get made and they're really easy to jump on that bandwagon and say, "Look, see, it's being fulfilled." That's just a reminder where we really need to be careful and stick to the context. What's the Hebrew meaning? What's the Greek meaning?

Now with him, James and I are obviously not saying, as many are, that Peter Thiel is the Antichrist. He just doesn't fit that. But there's no doubt what's happening through him, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, you just go right on down the list. The technology that is being developed today is necessary to bring about such things as the mark of the beast to be able to control the masses. AI is necessary for this to come about. Peter Thiel and Palantir are a necessary type of advancement in technology to control the masses. Tokenization would be another thing. These things are all necessary.

It's not a coincidence why we see everything going on with Israel right now and antisemitism. We can look across the board at all of the different signs that the Bible gives us for the last days. It's also not a coincidence that not until nowadays has there all of a sudden been these billionaire/trillionaires who are rising up in the tech world. That's what it would take to advance technology to the place it's being advanced right now in order to bring about these things. It's for such a time as this. This must converge. God didn't allow the technology to get here until the generation that we live in while we see everything else coming together.

I've got to throw this out because this is a throwback. I don't know if it was five years ago, you might remember. You played a clip while I was doing a program with you. Could have been six years ago. Prince Charles, who became King Charles, is talking about this individual very obscurely, and he's talking about climate laws and says in there that he has trillions at his disposal. What did he say? We must confront this with warlike mannerisms or warlike footing. Do you remember what he said?

James Kaddis: I'm actually going to find the quote because I'm almost certain I have it. I know you've played it several times way back. Brace yourself because this is big stuff. At the time, this was Prince Charles, and I believe this was COP26. This kind of gives you an idea of where we were here. You've got to take a look at this. This is nuts. Take a listen.

King Charles III (Recorded): So, ladies and gentlemen, my plea today is for countries to come together to create the environment that enables every sector of industry to take the action required. We know this will take trillions, not billions of dollars. We also know that countries, many of whom are burdened by growing levels of debt, simply cannot afford to go green. Here we need a vast military-style campaign to marshal the strength of the global private sector. With trillions at his disposal, far beyond global GDP and, with the greatest respect, beyond even the governments of the world's leaders, it offers the only real prospect of achieving fundamental economic transition.

James Kaddis: Every sector of every industry. The mobilization is remarkable. Trillions, not billions of dollars. He is basically eliminating and quantifying the cost of the problem to be so significant that the idea of being comfortable with a cashless society becomes more significant here. Listen to what he's going to say because he's going to say, "beyond the GDP of all countries combined." He made reference to that. That's the combined global capacity's ability to produce gross national product combined. It is beyond that capacity. He's talking about a cashless society. If you don't believe me, listen to this. "Beyond the governments of the world's leaders." In other words, the world's leaders aren't even capable of doing that. It has to be the guy that has trillions at his disposal.

It offers the only real prospect of achieving fundamental economic transition. At what point did this discussion become fundamental economic transition? Where did it go from global warming and climate change to fundamental economic transition? He's telling you what he's doing. He's telling you that he's using the climate problem to bring fundamental economic transition. That means a cashless society in a cashless world.

Tom Hughes: I remember that when you first played it. 1991, James, you know this, this is just a refresher for everybody, or anybody who doesn't know it, which a lot of people are not aware of this. The Club of Rome published a book titled *The First Global Revolution*. Think of everything you just heard King Charles say. This is a quote from the book: "In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill." So we got this idea: we need a common enemy. Who's the common enemy? Man. Check this out. All these dangers, we're the common enemy.