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Guest (Male): Welcome to Changing World Views Podcast with Sharon Hughes, broadcast journalism you can trust to bring you the truth regarding the issues of our day and the world views behind them. Now, here's Sharon.

Sharon Hughes: Hello friends. I hope that you are enjoying your summer vacation, whether you are able to go somewhere or staying at home. For us where we live in the mountains, we get to live where some people pay to go on a vacation. So, we're just enjoying being out in the beautiful weather, taking time to rest and do some fun staycation things. But if you've been with us for any time, you know we always have what we call summer classic shows and those are shows that we've done in the past that are relevant today. And with the current political climate, both here at home and in Israel and around the world, our summer classics this summer are going to address those issues with guests and what we've said that is maybe even more important today than it was when first aired.

So, for today's summer classic, we're going to start off with a show we did entitled It's Okay to Leave the Plantation. And when you hear what my guest has to say from their own experience, you'll understand why it is a summer classic this summer. So, without further ado, here it is. I met Mason Weaver when my husband Dwayne was running for US Congress. Mason came up and was the speaker for a big fundraising event at the beautiful Klein Vineyards in Sonoma County. And what's interesting is that they actually have a train car on their property that they've refurbished and turned into a dining room that we used when Mason talked to us.

And why that's significant is that Mason is the founder of the new Underground Railroad. And for those who may not be familiar, the Underground Railroad transported slaves during that very sad period of time in our American history when slavery was allowed. Mason himself being a black American has a very unique perspective on the whole area of racism. And that what his book is about. It's okay to leave the plantation. And what he's referring to is the political plantation that many find themselves slaves to today and that the choices are between freedom or being a slave to the master government.

Mason Weaver: I've been black most of my life. Now, you know at Berkeley I was an African American, but I got over that.

Sharon Hughes: Mason is a decorated Vietnam vet, holds a degree in political science from UC Berkeley, is a noted speaker and author having appeared on national TV, cable, and news programs. He hosted a live call-in radio show for eight years in Southern California. Well, welcome Mason to Changing World Views. I'm so glad to have you on the show.

Mason Weaver: Thank you, Sharon. It's really a pleasure to speak with you again.

Sharon Hughes: You know the event I mentioned earlier when you came to Northern California to help my husband Dwayne with his bid for Congress was one of the highlights of that race. A lot of people were impacted and was on a train box car. You remember that?

Mason Weaver: That's right.

Sharon Hughes: I want to talk about the new Underground Railroad, but first I know you've suffered some hardships such as the accident you had after returning from Vietnam and while you were stationed in San Diego, approximately 2,800 lb of steel and iron plates fell on you which resulted in a disabled discharge. Now, that didn't stop you. You went on to get your degree at UC Berkeley and pursue your dreams. Now, what caused you to do this rather than give up or give in to the temptation to let government take care of you?

Mason Weaver: It wasn't any any choices or decisions. There was simply nothing else I could do. I had to breathe air so I had to live. And this gentleman who dropped this ton and a half on me was trying to kill me. You know he was a white racist and I was a black racist. And we were antagonists on a ship together. And he saw the opportunity and he took advantage of it and he tried to take my life. That's why I became very radical because here was a white man that took all my energy, all my strength, all my ambition, my training, my career, everything was taken away.

At 21 years old I was completely untrained. Could not get a job. So, I had to take care of myself. So, I had to get out of that bed and learn how to walk and and deal with the pain and re-educate myself to use my brain instead of my back. And I couldn't turn around and say whose father it was. I couldn't wait for him to give me a program and and make sure I'm better and give me some kind of set aside. I had to go out and compete with him and his children. And that's what I've done.

Sharon Hughes: Now, in your book It's Okay to Leave the Plantation, you talk about having been a liberal and making that journey over to being a conservative. But what do you mean by the title It's Okay to Leave the Plantation?

Mason Weaver: Well, it's okay. You have to understand though that master will never tell you it's okay to leave the plantation. So, if you allow me to tax you at 45 percent, if you allow me to raise your and educate your children, if you allow me to set the rules for your living, then then I will raise your children to work for my children. It's just human nature. Not because I hate your children, but because I love my children. So, in the book it's it's okay to leave the plantation means that the doors are wide open. But if you expect someone to give you something, if if your refrigerator is empty and you expect someone else to fill it, if you are cold and expect someone to give you a coat, you are a slave.

And they're going to work you until you die and then train your children to work for them. And I did not want that. And I noticed as a as a young Berkeley radical, hateful, god-hating revolutionary at Berkeley that everyone around me were victims. There were nothing that was victorious. Everyone was hateful and had low self-esteem. And I began to say, am I a grown man or not? Am I free or not? What am I fighting for? Am I fighting for better treatment on the plantation or to be free of the plantation? Well, if if if I'm free of my mother's home, when I left my father's house at 18 because I thought I was grown, I had to declare I'm free.

But I could not come back next day and say, hey pay my rent or take care of my car payments or mom I I need my clothes washed. So, when I went to Berkeley as a radical student studying political science and and listening to those socialist professors, I'm I'm still loving America, still want a piece of America. And I'm hearing them say that as a black man I could not achieve certain things. They assumed based on the color of my skin that I was incapable.

Sharon Hughes: Well, I remember when you came up and did that event for Dwayne, we made arrangements for you to talk to one of the college campuses. And most of the people that showed up were the professors and the faculty. And uh they were intrigued to come and hear what you had to say, but I think they were shocked because it wasn't what they expected.

Mason Weaver: Well, they didn't expect a black man to actually actually speak like a free man. You know they I remember that they uh it was a pretty interesting group. Most of them allow the students to come to class because the intellectuals really believe they're superior. So, they were going to come and show off this uppity black man who happened to come up there and talk about freedom. And they thought I was going to have legitimacy for their degrees. Then I just told the truth. And the truth is always shocking to them.

Sharon Hughes: Yes. Well, it's powerful. I know the things that you're saying are totally different viewpoint of reparations and affirmative action and so forth. And

Mason Weaver: Well, let's speak about reparations. We argue the concept of children. If if your child say to you if a five-year-old child say to you, I want to go play on a freeway, you're not going to debate that with them because it's silly. It's foolish. So, if if someone comes up to me and say that we have to get reparations from the government that ended slavery, the government, the emancipation proclamation that somehow this government who ended slavery with 500,000 dead folks owe us something is foolish childishness. The concept is crazy. Number one, if you grant reparations for all descendants of slavery, I am sure Sharon, if you look deep enough in your ancestry, you'll find some black blood get some of that money.

Sharon Hughes: Or American Indian.

Mason Weaver: Everybody. Well, American Indians get they get casinos now. By the way, if you're going to do that, if you're going to give a monopoly in business to one group based on their race, then give me the cotton business.

Sharon Hughes: Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a great idea.

Mason Weaver: You know I can own a casino, let me own a cotton gin. Give me a cotton input export business.

Sharon Hughes: Well, listen we're going to take a break. When we come back, want to ask Mason what he means by we were led into slavery by our chiefs. That's all coming straight up when we come back.

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Mason Weaver: We had the government now in Germany, they called the Social Democrats. They refused to have God mentioned in their oath. Normally when you think of the Nazi then the war, you look to the criminals. But the really responsible people for what happening are the appeasers, the bystanders who don't want to risk anything and look in the other direction.

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Guest (Male): You're listening to Changing World Views with Sharon Hughes.

Sharon Hughes: Well, welcome back. I'm talking with Mason Weaver about It's Okay to Leave the Plantation. Well, Mason I just did a show with Dr. Carl Mohler of Open Doors USA about the persecution and slavery in Southern Sudan. And it's a terrible situation and we need to do whatever we can to CNN come to these horrendous human rights violations. It's just not okay. And And as we know one of the blackest spots in America's history is the slavery issue. So, when you say we were led into slavery by our chiefs, what do you mean by this?

Mason Weaver: Well, uh a number of different levels. Uh it's really important to understand that slavery in Africa uh existed on a lesser scale of different type than existed in the Americas. And so the African chiefs knew and understood slavery is a great way to get rid of your enemies uh and your prisoners. However, what I really meant by that that the culture of the African chiefs that allowed certain things to happen developed a culture of weakness. So, the community was so weak the slave traders were able to walk in. What that weakness was was the way that men and women treated each other.

Any society where you have the men uh allowed to have more than one family, uh more than one girlfriend, more than one wife, either you wink at it or you accept it. Every time you have that society, the young men, the young warrior class have no reason to go out and defend the community because they have to live for the other family over the hill. That creates chaos so that those slaves nations were took in this captivity by unarmed merchant marines. It wasn't an army. It wasn't an invasion. The men were incapable spiritually to defend the city.

And our communities today, you find black young black men who who are been raised and almost almost encouraged to believe that women are sexual objects. So, they brag about having more than one woman and no wives married. So, you have a community where the young men become roving bands of bandits and warriors. You call them bloods and crips today. Uh it used to be in Africa in most African nations that when a person saw one of their warriors on the pathway, that woman came down a darkened path and saw a warrior, she felt safe. Today you see a black man, you do not feel safe.

And I want to know why. Black people You know I'll give you example. The underlying problem of the black community. A few years ago they had this Ebonics came out of Oakland, California. You had You had four members of the Oakland School Board and the mayor standing at a press conference speaking perfect English saying that black children speak a different language and had to be taught. And everyone knew it was crazy and foolish and and Jackson flew out and stood with them at a press conference and talked about their intentions. Well, what the press doesn't want to cover anymore is that the next election cycle, every black person on that platform from Oakland, the four school board members and the mayor, all of them were voted out of office.

And uh they're rejected by the voters because black people know they have to educate their children and take care of themselves.

Sharon Hughes: Yes, absolutely. Well, can you tell us what you mean that multicultural really means divide and conquer?

Mason Weaver: Well, you cannot ever have two different cultures survive in one geographical region. Every time you have that, you have civil war. The Indians and the cowboys. I mean that doesn't ever ever match. So, the people who are trying to push a different culture other than the successful Western culture, a different culture means they want diversity which means division, folks. It does not mean unity. So, you can never ever have that. So, the Romans call it divide and conquer. And the South they call it separate but equal.

Sharon Hughes: What is this new Underground Railroad that you've come up with?

Mason Weaver: Well, in the South during the slave days the uh the masters told all the good white folks up North that those slaves like being slaves, that they're singing, they're dancing, they have medical plans, they have full employment, 100 percent employment on the plantation, folks. And they said they they enjoy being slaves, they're being taken care of, they got government cheese programs. And then they told the slaves that those Northerners hated them, that they wanted them to be free of master because master fed them. And that freedom was bad. And the slaves had nothing to understand but what master said.

Slaves they escaped and went North and told the Northerners that that that they were being murdered and killed. Those Northern white Republican Christian people set up safe houses to bring slaves from house to house and show them the way to freedom. Today we have mental slavery crossing all economic and racial borders. People thinking like slaves depending on master to take care of them, abuse women hoping to love the man to stop them from beating them. We need a new Underground Railroad of free thinking people to lead that mental slavery to mental clarity. And we're setting up new Underground Railroad Safe House meetings uh on my website masonweaver.com.

You can get information about it. And I enjoy everyone to join up.

Sharon Hughes: Let me just put out there for those that may not know Abraham Lincoln was a Republican that helped set the slaves free.

Mason Weaver: Well, matter of fact that was the reason the party was formed. People don't understand not only was Lincoln the party of the abolitionists and the party of Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman, the first black Democrats elected was 1934. The first black Republicans was two years after the Civil War. It is a party of freedom. And people can ask me, well what does the Republican party do for black people today? I said nothing. We don't own any. So, Democrats are very good at managing slaves. You're homosexuals, whether you a low income, whether you are a crippled, whether you a female, misery management.

That's all they do. And you must be scared and miserable for them to handle you. You will never see a poor neighborhood voting voting Republican. The more poor they are, the more likely you are to vote Democrat. So, Democrats are the party of the poor. As a matter of fact they're the party of poverty. They will manage you well in your poverty, get you as comfortable as possible in your poverty, but never get you free of poverty. The The The slaves only react to emotion. I feel your pain. It's going to be okay tomorrow. They don't really care.

The slaves never care how wealthy master is. They care how much master is going to do for them for picking that cotton for them. So, we are battling with people who are afraid. They're like a herd of sheep. And And they are frightened anything other than the sheep dog that gives them directions. The sheep herd together not because they love each other, but because they are afraid. And so you got folks in America afraid of guns and health and crime and and retiring broke and no health plans. And so they they are afraid. And the master comes in and says, you keep voting for me.

You keep picking my cotton and I will make sure I give you more government cheese. And they're looking for the best master. There are two mindsets in this country. One mindset says we're going to take care of people. Other one says we're going to we're going to free people to take care of themselves.

Sharon Hughes: You definitely are saying something that is unusual in the black community. How well received is your message?

Mason Weaver: Extremely well received. I I invite your guests who may think differently to go to my website, masonweaver.com. And I have a a segment on there and listen to my tapes for that segment up and pull down a few of my speeches. One in particular is one given in New York, Kingston, New York before 450 black people uh Democrats. You can hear the response. You can see what I'm You can hear what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not sugarcoating what I'm saying. And I'm not making them feel good about themselves, but you hear the response from the audience.

Sharon Hughes: You did say masonweaver.com. Can people get your books there off of the website too?

Mason Weaver: Yep. Yeah, ma'am. Books, tapes, CDs, uh uh also book before events and we can talk about the future from there.

Sharon Hughes: Wonderful. Well, thank you for being with us and sharing, Mason. And we just wish you well on this venture of helping to set Americans free.

Mason Weaver: Thank you. God bless you.

Sharon Hughes: You know Frederick Douglass said slavery has been fruitful in giving itself names. It has been called the peculiar institution. It has been called by a great many names and it will call itself yet many other names. And you and I and all of us had better wait and see what new form this old monster will assume and what new skin this old snake will come from next. Mason Weaver said in response to this that slavery did in fact take on new names. It became known as sharecropping, welfare projects, public schools, and good intentions. Now, Frederick Douglass was right, Mason says.

We must keep watch for the new names of slavery. We must also keep watch for the new opportunities of freedom. Frederick Douglass also said if there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing for the ground. Throughout time, since the beginning, since the Garden of Eden, we know what happened. Adam and Eve did not obey God. And mankind has suffered as a result of their choices ever since. And that has included wars and rumors of wars and abuse and mistreatment of individuals around the world and many nations it still exists.

And of course, as we all know, exists in America today on different levels. Whether we're talking about race issues or we're talking about gender issues such as women being seen as equal to men. Or how about the issue of ageism? In other words, not valuing our seniors where in many cultures valued their seniors above all. And of course, not to mention valuing children including those in the womb. It's to our shame, I believe, that these world views and the actions that follow exist. And so next time for our summer classic, we're going to take a look at the Holocaust with Pulitzer Prize nominee many times Edwin Black as he talks about IBM and the Holocaust, his parents victims of the Holocaust.

You know if you've listened to Changing World Views for any time, you know that not only do we exist for the purpose of talking about the world views behind the issues because we do not believe that issues live in a vacuum, but also we are an advocate for human dignity, for every human in every nation because God values every person. So, until I see you next time, this is Sharon Hughes saying it like it is.

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