Trusting God in Suffering: Is He Still Good When This Isn’t? Laura Story
This was not the plan. Not the diagnosis, not the heartbreak, not the prayer apparently sitting in God’s inbox. So what does trusting God in suffering actually look like? Grammy-winning artist Laura Story, author of Stand in Awe, joins FamilyLife Today guest host Cheryl Shumake to talk honestly about unwanted stories, unanswered prayers, and believing God is good when you’d really prefer some supporting evidence.
Laura Story: Christianity is the only religion that's based on what someone else has done on our behalf. So, I would say just exhale for a moment and realize as much as I'd love to give you a to-do list, maybe the first step really is that Psalm 46: "Be still and know." Cease striving and know that I am God. Know that in a deep soul-resting way, in the fact that He is God and I am not.
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Dave Wilson: The knees are healing. I'm starting to walk. It's been a little bit relaxing over the last few days. But what's really even better?
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Dave Wilson: Bingo. I can't wait to hear what Sheryl and Laura Story will be discussing today. Laura is the best.
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Laura Story: I'll often say you can't always choose what you walk through, but you can always choose how you walk through it. So, if you feel like you're not in control of what's happening with your health or any of these things, we can choose to continue to trust God and in many ways revere Him.
An example of not doing that, I think about a woman in our church who was unhappily married for 20 years. Her husband was unfaithful, just a sad story. They divorced and then she spent the next 20 years bitter and resentful. So, you look at it and think she basically had 40 years of unhappiness. In her not being willing to let go and forgive and trust that God is writing a good story, even though it had some hard pieces, things that none of us would wish upon anyone.
I think that reverence is also looking at the hard path that the Lord has led us down. A lot of people have just devastating stories from their childhood. How do we trust the God that allowed that? I don't have all the answers for that. But I do know just because sin shows up in a certain part of our story, it doesn't mean that God is any less good.
I was at an event in Houston, Texas, doing this benefit concert for the victims of this flood that had come through, and so many people had lost so much. This woman walks right up to me and she goes, "So, why does God allow bad things to happen?" I'm like, "Wow. Is there a theologian around here that can answer this?"
But what I was able to say to her was that would take a long time for me to even try to explain and I'd still do it poorly. But the two things I see in Scripture, I see two answers that the Lord gives us from His word. One is in Romans 5, where it talks about sin entering the world through the fall. So, yeah, God is not the author of evil.
But that's not the only answer we see. We also see John 9 where this man is born blind. The disciples are like, "Whose fault is this?" and Jesus says he was born blind that the works of God might be displayed. So, I think there's something in there with revering God and seeing that even though He is not the author of evil. Joni Eareckson Tada is one of my favorite people ever. Something she has said before that I just hid in my heart was "God often uses that which He hates to accomplish that which He loves."
That's where we revere God in just trusting Him to say I didn't see my story going this way. I didn't see my marriage, my family, my career going this direction, Lord, but I have to trust that You are sovereign and that You are working this together for good even when it doesn't feel good. And that's reverence.
I was born with congenital nevi, and my response to that when you become self-aware and you're like, "Okay, I'm different," was to hide and I wanted to stay hidden. I thought we could do all the things that God wants me to do, but let's not do that out front. Let's do that in writing, in coaching, in talking to people. But what we're not going to do is get in front of people and say here I am with all of my imperfections on display. Like you would never do a podcast or anything with a microphone. Why in the world would we do that?
But I remember when the Lord spoke to me, "I've called you to write and teach," and just impressed upon my heart that through you I will get glory. You're not to focus on how you look, how you appear to people, just love God and love people. That's all I want you to do, and do it with the gifts and talents and calling that I've given you and let me do the rest.
There was a time in my life where I didn't know if I would ever get married. I've been married twice. I was divorced. I had such a sweet season with the Lord through that period. I have been married to an amazing man for the last 18 years. Very well loved despite my imperfections, maybe even because of.
I can see God's wisdom when I think about what I could have been without these imperfections. I have asked Him for healing and like Paul, He has said, "No, my grace is sufficient for you." I'm grateful now, but I wasn't for a long time because it's a struggle to get to the point where you can say, "God, I accept not just that this thing that has happened to me or this thing that's a part of who I am, part of my makeup, part of my story, did happen, but that You're going to work good out of it and You decided not to act because that was the best for me at the time." That's a hard pill towards reverence to swallow.
Paul is such a rockstar, but he says the craziest stuff. I was talking about Romans 5. One of my favorite verses is when he starts talking about rejoicing in your suffering because at first you're like, "What in the world?" But he goes on to say because suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not disappoint.
A few years ago I just had a bit of a lightbulb moment when I realized, and I think of it in the context of my kids, that it's not the vacation Bible school that I'm sending my kids to that is producing character in them. The Lord uses that. It's not even the Scripture memory that I'm making them do. It's not the Sunday school attendance. The Lord uses all of that.
But if they just did those things in a perfect world that I created and curated for them, protecting them from any sort of harm or suffering, then the Lord would not be using the right ingredients to do the work that He desires to do in the life of my kids and in my life as well.
So, again back to reverence, it's revering the Lord to say the Lord knew that my daughter Josie would have a father with a brain injury that would have a vision deficit and a memory deficit and that he would have seasons of stepping back because of his health. The Lord knew that. At first, Josie's 13 now, so maybe 10 years ago I began to see how the disability in our family was affecting the children. Both my husband and I had lots of fear and anxiety about that.
But here we are 10 years later and things are not easier in any way. But I can honestly say I am seeing my kids grow in their character and in their endurance. It's exactly like Paul says it. I'm seeing that develop in them because of how they are applying the truths of God that they're learning with their real-life hardships. And that has been a beautiful thing to see.
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Laura Story: I do want to ask you to pray for the people who are listening, for them to be transformed by recognizing God's faithfulness and goodness. But before we do that, I know that there's somebody that's listening that's like, "You know, that sounds great for you and that sounds great for Sheryl. But I read my word and I don't get reverencing God. I am in this situation and I don't understand why He's not showing up for me."
I can't believe when I read in the Scripture where David says that I would have fainted if I hadn't believed to see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. I'm in the land of the living and I see no goodness here. What can that person do to begin to see God with new eyes?
I think first of all, I know you used the word "do," and there is an aspect of action on our part, but just remembering that God, that's one of the things that's different about our religion per se than other religions is that other religions are based on what we do for some God or some entity, some deity.
In Christianity, to my knowledge, is the only religion that's based on what someone else has done on our behalf. So, I would say, dear brother or sister, just exhale for a moment and realize as much as I'd love to give you a to-do list of things to do to grow in this area, maybe the first step really is that Psalm 46: "Be still and know." Cease from striving and know that I am God and know it's not like an intellectual know, it's like a deep soul-resting in the fact that He is God and I am not.
I think that's a good first step. I'd say the other thing, all of the stuff we've talked about today is not meant to be done outside of community. We have to believe that even though our relationship with the Lord begins as a personal relationship with the Lord, that's about the only thing personal. It is an interpersonal faith. He calls us to a body. When He calls us the bride of Christ, He's not talking about you're my bride and you're my bride. He's not a polygamist.
He is married to the church, and it's just this reminder of how much we need each other. When we're having those hard seasons, I had someone come up to me after church and they said, "Hey, I'm going through a really hard season and I don't know if I should be singing this song, like you're singing the song about the goodness of God. 'All my life You've been faithful, all my life You've been so, so good.' I don't even know if I should be singing that because I just don't believe it."
And I was able to say to them, "No, no, no, it's when we don't believe it, that's when we need to sing it all the more." And not just us singing it, and even if you are at the place where you can't sing it, that's why you still come to church and you allow your brothers and sisters to sing it over you and believe for you until, as the Lord is doing that deep work of restoring your own faith.
Ann Wilson: That's so good, Laura. Would you pray for that person?
Laura Story: I'd love that. Thank you. Father, we know that You are near to the brokenhearted. You're near to those who are crushed in spirit. You are a God who weeps with Your people and deeply feels those emotions and even a God that calls us like we see in the Psalms to be honest with You. I think about David saying, "How long, O Lord, will You forget us forever?"
You delight when we come to You with our honesty, but You are not a God that leaves us there. You are a God who does that beautiful work of restoring our faith because our faith was never built upon our own efforts. Our faith was never based on the amount of Bible studies we did or the Christian track record we have. It's only based on Your faithfulness and ultimately the work of Christ on the cross for us.
So, I pray that that dear brother or sister right now would feel Your spirit and if they don't, that they would surround themselves both with Your word and Your people until they do. We pray it all in the name of Jesus, amen.
Ann Wilson: Amen. Okay, so Laura, we talked a lot about how reverence impacts us individually. But how does it impact us as a married couple? How does it work for our marriage?
Laura Story: I don't think it's just a coincidence that people get married in churches. I think when you get married, you're coming before the Lord and you're making vows to each other, but in many ways you're making vows to Him. Marriage was His idea in the first place. I always envision a marriage, people say it is between two people and it's like, yeah, it's between two people with God in the center and a whole lot of other people surrounding you pushing you towards each other constantly.
And that's what our marriage has been like, at least. But ultimately it's the vows we take before the Lord because it can't just be about how much I love my spouse. I think about Martin and I, we were just giddy happy when we got married. But as everyone knows, you don't just stay giddy happy for 22 years.
But really what holds a marriage together is that commitment that we make to the Lord. So, in many ways it's the reverence towards God that holds our marriages together. I'll tell you another interesting story. We hit a really rough patch about five years in, and I'll never forget we're sitting there with a marriage counselor.
To help you understand kind of what was so tough, Martin's unable to drive, unable to work. So, we're sitting there and he's frustrated with me that I get to work. And I'm frustrated with him that I have to work. Or he's frustrated with me that he doesn't get to drive, and I'm frustrated that he can't drive and I have to drive all the time.
So, there's all this frustration. I'll never forget the counselor asking us, he said, "If I was to ask you guys what's the biggest problem in your marriage, what would you say?" And we both immediately said: "Martin's brain injury." It's the only thing we'd agreed on in months was Martin's brain injury was the biggest problem in our marriage.
And the counselor goes, "Wrong." He said, "The biggest problem in your marriage is your sin. The biggest problem in your marriage is your selfishness, both of you." And once we began to see marriage as an opportunity to die to self, and that's a huge part of reverence is this humbly coming before the Lord, acknowledging Him as not only God, but God over every relationship in our life, every aspect of every relationship in our life, I think that was a big turning point for us and really how reverence has played a big role in our marriage.
Ann Wilson: I am thinking about the person who has a spouse that is a non-believer or a spouse who maybe isn't willing to deal with trauma or triggers or to sit down with a counselor and hear that your problem is really sin. How does reverence from one spouse impact a marriage? How can it?
Laura Story: Well, first of all, just acknowledging what your job is in your marriage. You are not responsible for saving your spouse. We have a Messiah to do that. God is the one that draws hearts, and so acknowledging what our role is and what our role isn't. We cannot nag him into the kingdom. That is not a great strategy.
But our role is showing in the way that we live, showing just the beauty of God and the holiness of God and the trustworthiness of God in the way that we revere Him. Whether that's through the habits we've talked about, church, God's word, prayer, things like that, our goal, honestly, is to make an unbelieving spouse curious.
And when they see a transformed life, then they become curious. So, Martin and I, I became a Christian before he did and he just began to see something different about me. And I've heard so many stories because the truth is a believer makes a better spouse. Whether they believe it or not, they're seeing aspects of your joy that's not tethered to circumstances, your respect for them, not because they're necessarily acting in a respectful way, but because the Lord's commanded us to respect our spouses. They're seeing different ways that the Holy Spirit is changing your heart, and that becomes the testimony.
It's been a real privilege to be with the folks at FamilyLife Today, and it was nice that they asked me to share a song, just an old hymn that has formed my life in the area of reverence.
(Singing)
Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty
God in three persons, blessed Trinity
Holy, holy, holy, all the saints adore Thee
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee
Which wert and art and evermore shalt be
Holy, holy, holy, though the darkness hide Thee
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see
Only Thou art holy, there is none beside Thee
Perfect in power, in love, in purity
Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty
All Thy works shall praise Thy name in earth and sky and sea
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty
God in three persons, blessed Trinity
God in three persons, blessed Trinity
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- Organic Mentoring
- Orphan Justice
- Our Adoption Story
- Out of a Far Country
- Out of the Depths
- Overcome Pain to Love God's Word Again - Faith Womack
- Overcoming Emotions that Destroy
- Overcoming Father Wounds: Kia Stephens
- Overcoming Lust
- Parent Fuel: For the Fire Inside Our Kids
- Parenthood: Adam and Chelsea Griffin
- Parenting Beyond Your Capacity
- Parenting by Design
- Parenting Heart to Heart
- Parenting is Your Highest Calling and Other Parenting Myths
- Parenting Panic: David & Meg Robbins
- Parenting With Kingdom Purpose
- Partner as First Priority: Ron Deal and Gayla Grace
- Peter Mutabazi: A Foster Parenting Story
- Picking Up the Pieces
- Planning for Oneness
- Planting Scripture Seeds
- Playing Hurt
- Politics--According to the Bible
- Portia Collins: Overcoming Performance and Perfectionism
- Practicing Affirmation
- Pray Big for Your Family
- Praying With Jesus
- Preach the Whole Gospel
- Preston and Jackie Hill Perry: Beyond the Vows
- Preston Perry: How To Tell the Truth
- Protecting Your Family From the Dangers of Pornography
- Psalm 127
- Pure Eyes, Clean Heart
- Pure Pleasure
- Put the Seat Down
- Putting Christ Back in Christmas
- Putting Your Parents in Proper Perspective
- Raising Emotionally Healthy Boys: David Thomas
- Raising Emotionally Strong Boys - David Thomas
- Raising Unselfish Children
- Reaching Out to the Orphan
- Real Mom Advice: Welcome to the No Judgment Zone--Mom Panel Discussion
- Real Moms, Real Jesus
- Real Relationships Get Messy: The Unexpected Gift of Honest Friends--Brant Hanson and Sherri Lynn
- Rebooting Christmas
- Rebuilding a Safe House
- Reclaiming Easter
- Reflecting on Twenty Years
- Reflections of Life: A Personal Visit With Bill Bright
- Refreshment for Families
- Rekindling the Family Reformation
- Rekindling the Romance in Your Marriage
- Relationships Done Right: Sean Perron and Spencer Harmon
- Remarriage After Loss: Ron Deal and Rod & Rachel Faulkner Brown
- Reset: Powerful Habits to Change Your Life: Debra Fileta
- Respectable Sins
- Restore the Table - Ryan Rush
- Rethinking Sexuality
- Rich in Love
- Richer by the Dozen - Bill and Pam Mutz
- Rick Altizer & Rachelle Star: He Calls Me Daughter
- Rid of My Disgrace
- Road Trip to Redemption
- Romance for Dummies
- Romance in the Rain
- Ron and Nan Deal: Mindful Marriage
- Runaway Emotions
- Ruth Chou Simons: Now and Not Yet
- Ruth Chou Simons: When Strivings Cease
- Sacred Home: Jennifer Pepito
- Sacred Influence
- Same Sex Marriage
- Say Goodbye to Survival Mode
- Say it Loud!
- Screens and Teens
- Season of Change
- Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert
- Secrets
- Seeing the Power of God Among Us
- Set-Apart Femininity
- Setting Up Stones
- Seven Reasons Why God Created Marriage
- Sex and Money
- Sex and the Single Christian Girl
- Sex and the Single Girl
- Sex, Dating and Relationships
- Sexual Problems in Marriage
- Sexual Sanity for Men
- Sexual Sanity for Women
- Shame Interrupted
- Sharing Christ with Word and Deed
- Sharing the Love and Laughter
- Shattered
- She Still Calls Me Daddy
- Shelterwood
- She's Got the Wrong Guy
- Shift: Building a Spiritual Legacy for the Next Generation
- Simple Truths
- Single and Free to be Me
- Singleness Redefined
- Sis, Take a Breath: Kirsten & Benjamin Watson
- Six Conversations in an Isolated World: Heather Holleman
- Sleeping Giant
- Smart Phones for Smart Families
- So You're About to Be a Teenager
- Something About Us
- SOS: Sick of Sex
- Soul Surfer
- Speak Life to Your Husband When You Want to Yell at Him - Ann Wilson
- Speaking Your Spouse's Love Language
- Special Kids with Special Needs
- Spiritual Life Coaching
- Spiritually Single Moms
- Stand in Awe: Laura Story
- Start Your Family
- Starting Your Marriage Right
- Stay at Home Dads
- Stay In Your Lane: Worry Less, Love More, and Get Things Done: Kevin A. Thompson
- Stay-at-Home Dads: A Passing Fad or a Choice That's Here to Stay?
- Step Parenting Wisdom
- Stepdads, a.k.a. Unsung Heroes: Ron Deal and Gil Stuart
- Stepfamilies and Holidays
- Stepfamily: Blender or Crockpot
- Stepping Up
- Stepping Up to Manhood
- Steps to Manhood
- Stop Overthinking Family Discipleship: Barrett & Jenifer Johnson
- Stories Behind the Great Songs and Traditions of Christmas
- Strength in Softness: Redefining Success for Women - Allen and Jennifer Parr
- Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters
- Stuart Scott: When Children Lose Their Faith
- Stumbling Souls: Is Love Enough?
- Surprise Child
- Surprising Secrets of Highly Happy Marriage
- Surrender
- Symphony in the Dark
- Talking Smack
- Tea Parties With a Purpose
- Teaching Generosity to Your Family
- Teammates in Marriage
- Tech Savvy Parenting
- Technical Virginity
- Ten Questions Every Husband Should Ask His Wife
- Ten Urgent Steps for Spiritually Healthy Families
- Teresa Whiting: Overcoming Shame
- The "Anything" Prayer
- The 10 Habits of Happy Moms
- The 7 Hardest Things God Asks a Woman to Do
- The Accidental Feminist
- The Anatomy of an Affair: Dave Carder
- The Art of Effective Prayer
- The Art of Parenting: Identity
- The Art of Parenting: Mission and Releasing
- The Art of Parenting: What Kids Need
- The Best Gifts for Wives and Husbands
- The Book of Man
- The Bullying Breakthrough
- The Busy Mom's Guide to Romance
- The Christian Lover
- The Clay Pot Conspiracy: God's Plan to Use Weakness in Leaders—Dave Harvey
- The Color of Rain
- The Complex World of a Blended Family
- The Connected Child
- The Controlling Husband
- The Creator’s Guide to Marital Intimacy
- The Dad I Wish I Had
- The Dad Tired Q & A Mixtape: Jerrad Lopes
- The Dark Hole of Depression
- The Dating Manifesto
- The Early Seasons of a Woman's Life
- The Emotionally Destructive Relationship
- The Enticement of the Forbidden
- The First Few Years of Marriage
- The Forgotten Commandment
- The Fruitful Wife
- The Gentlemen's Society
- The Good Dad
- The Good News About Injustice
- The Gospel Comes With a House Key
- The Grace Marriage: Brad & Marilyn Rhoads
- The Grace of Gratitude
- The Heart of Jesus: How He Really Feels About You: Dane Ortlund
- The Jesus Storybook Bible
- The King of Kings
- The Leader's Code
- The Life Ready Woman: Thriving in a Do-It-All World
- The Love Dare for Parents
- The Marriage Prayer
- The Masculine Mandate: God’s Calling to Men
- The Missional Marriage
- The Mission-Minded Family
- The Mom Guilt Spiral: Abbey Wedgeworth
- The Mother-Daughter Duet
- The Mystery of Intimacy in Marriage
- The National Bible Bee 2009 Winners
- The Neighborhood Café
- The New Passport to Purity
- The Passionate Mom
- The Pastor's Kid
- The Person Called You
- The Poverty of Nations
- The Power of A Wife's Affirmation
- The Power of God's Names
- The Power of New Covenant Love
- The Profound Power of a Legacy
- The Protectors
- The Realities of Remarriage
- The Refuge of Faith
- The Reluctant Entertainer
- The Resolution for Women
- The Respect Dare
- The Ring Makes All the Difference
- The Road to Kaeluma - Landon Hawley and Perry Wilson
- The Sacred Search
- The Season of Gratitude
- The Second-Half Adventure
- The Secret Life of a Fool
- The Secret of Contentment
- The Shepherd Leader at Home
- The Smart Stepdad
- The Smart Stepmom
- The Soul of Modesty
- The Sticky Faith Guide
- The Toxic War on Masculinity: Nancy Pearcey
- The Unveiled Wife
- The Upside Down Marriage
- The Very First Christmas
- The World's Largest Neighborhood Easter Egg Hunt
- Things That Go Bump in the Night
- Things We've Learned from Dennis and Barbara Rainey
- This Changes Everything
- This Is My Destiny
- Three Essentials for Every Married Woman
- Three Gospel Resolutions
- Three Marks of A Covenant Keeper
- Thriving at College
- Tim & Aileen Challies: Seasons of Sorrow
- Time-Saving Mom: Crystal Paine
- Tips for Smart Stepoms
- To Have and To Hold: Tommy Nelson
- To Own a Dragon
- Tongue Pierced
- Transcending Mysteries
- Transformed
- Treasures in the Dark
- Treat Me Like a Customer
- Trent Griffith: Do You Hear What I Hear?
- True Success: A Personal Visit With John Wooden
- Trust Issues: When Love Feels Risky--Ron & Nan Deal
- Trusting God While Treating Cancer
- Turn Around at Home
- Turning Your Heart Toward Your Children
- Twenty-Five Ways to Lead Your Family Spiritually
- Two Hearts Praying as One
- Uncommon Trust: Learning to Trust God When Life Doesn't Make Sense--Erik Reed
- Undaunted
- Undefiled
- Understanding and Honoring Your Wife
- Understanding Your Child’s Bent
- Unfavorable Odds
- United
- Unraveling the Messiah Mystery
- Unshaken
- Untangling Your Faith--from the Questions Jesus Asked: Amberly Neese
- Upon Waking: Jackie Hill Perry
- Us In Mind: Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Marriage: Ted Lowe
- Waiting for His Heart
- Walking by Faith, Not by Sight
- War of Words
- Warrior in Pink
- Water From a Deep Well
- We Still Do: Michael and Cindy Easley
- Weekend to Remember Getaway Sampler
- Wellness for the Glory of God
- We're in the Money ... Now What?
- What Did You Expect?
- What Do You Think of Me?
- What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?
- What Every Husband and Wife Needs to Know
- What God Wants for Christmas
- What Hate Couldn't Destroy: Chris Singleton
- What He Must Be
- What Husbands Wish Their Wives Knew About Men
- What I Want My Children to Know
- What If Parenting Is the Most Important Job in the World?
- What is the Meaning of Sex
- What To Do About Motherhood Guilt: Maggie Combs
- What's God Think about My Anxiety? Ed Welch
- What's in the Bible?
- Whats's Best for Children
- When Faith Disappoints: Lisa Victoria Fields
- When Sinners Say 'I Do'
- When Sorry Isn't Enough
- When the Bottom Drops Out
- When the Hurt Runs Deep
- When Your Husband is Addicted to Pornography
- Why Do We Call It Christmas?
- Why Don’t I Feel Close to God? For Christians Who Just Don’t Feel It: Brant Hansen
- Why God is Enough
- Why I Didn't Rebel
- Why Teens Walk Away: David Eaton
- Winning the Drug War at Home
- Winsome Persuasion
- Women of the Word
- Woodlawn
- Word Versus Deed
- You and Me Forever
- You Are Not Who You Used to Be
- You Are Redeemed: Nana Dolce
- You Are Still a Mother - Jackie Gibson
- You Paid How Much for That?
- Your Child and the Autism Spectrum
- Your Interculturual Marriage
- Your Kids at Risk
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