First Love

Announcer: Welcome to First Love with Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas, where faith meets real life. In this weekly broadcast, you'll discover practical and spiritual keys to reclaim God's story in your life, deepen your relationship with Jesus, and encounter him as your first love, whether for the first time or all over again. No topic is off-limits as we make Jesus real, relevant, and relational. Stay with us; your journey back to first love starts now.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: If we bring it into another understanding, you said you wanted to talk about the cross. There are two beams of the cross. Draw a cross; you see you have to draw a vertical beam, then you have to draw a horizontal beam.

That is a powerful illustration of this scripture, both in Deuteronomy, Mark, and Matthew: love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself. The first beam I'm called to adjust and I'm called to choose is vertical. I have to go after the right vertical with the Lord. Nothing in my life horizontally will work until the vertical is correct.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: Why don't we correct that and say, not only do we have to go after it, but it's the way we go after God's love. We must understand God's love before we can experience the other.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Exactly. Yes, it has to be like in the book of John and 1 John. It has to be God and me, then an understanding of me and me, and then an understanding of me and people. That's that vertical connection.

Then the vertical connection is played out horizontally. I always tell people, wrong relationships are not the result of wrong behavior. They are the result of wrong belief. Because at the core of every relational conflict is a belief system. It's an internal world. And until we choose a different internal world, we won't get a different horizontal outcome.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: So we need to choose a different belief system. And then we will see the cross in a new light. Because at the cross, that's where he died for his bride.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Yes. And very poignantly, when Jesus was hanging on the cross, his head and his feet were connected vertically. His arms were connected horizontally, but his heart was at the intersection point of both vertical and horizontal.

Where he birthed the church, where the spear was put in through that side and it went all the way up into that cardiac cavity where that pericardiac cavity of the water surrounding his heart and blood and water flowed. That was the sign in those days of testing whether or not they were dead because water would encompass the heart.

So that water, which is the spirit, Holy Spirit, him and the spirit all together, the Godhead, right there and then, they birthed the church. Now the very side that Adam had Eve taken out of was the very side that Jesus was pierced and blood and water flowed. On the cross, he birthed the church.

But how does he birth the church? Right from his heart. What's his heart? It's the intersection point of God and me, and me and people. That's an important thing for anyone listening to understand. You can't change relationships; you can't change choice horizontally. You have to change it vertically first. You have to get a new internal world belief system about God. Otherwise, it's just behaviorism and it's going to change back.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: It will; it won't stay permanent. It has to be a permanent transformation. And it can only be that by believing that God loved us so much that he gave his son, Jesus Christ, to die for us.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Yes. See again, the mercies are there. They're like a credit, like a credit card in my bank account. Thirty thousand chances await me. But if I go back to my previous internal world where I disagree with those mercies, I'm just going to live the same pattern and cycle over and over again. Until I choose to let those mercies become my new internal world and choose them, it won't work.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: No. And I think the belief system that we're sharing tonight is all really what people want. And they search for this and they can't find it because they don't understand that it's tied up with belief that God loved you first.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Because he first chose me. And I just want to give a practical example. There would say, how does this work? In my parenting course, we were talking about love and how to love our children and how to love them right into a secure love. And I'll be teaching a course later on this year about secure love for parenting.

But the Lord said to me very individually, he was saying to me, if you try to love your children just from the right thing to do, the right principle to put into place, the right key or the right gem or the right behaviorism, it will work for a time. But then you'll go back to looking for value, not from value.

When you're looking for value, if someone devalues you, you'll do whatever you need to do to assert your value. You'll speak to them wrong, you'll get angry, you'll use a tone of voice that isn't peaceful. And then he said to me, I want you to love your children because you realize how much you're loved.

See, that's the internal world change. I can't horizontally love my children correctly until I vertically understand how much I'm loved. And then that will make me love like he loves me.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: So that means that you need to receive God's love. Receive God's love for you and receive his value of you. And then you will be able to love your children the way he wants you to love them.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Yes, because then I will be living from love. And so I won't be doing things horizontally to try to find love. I won't walk into a room and feel like no one's listening to me or like no one values my opinion, so therefore get loud and get boisterous and get arrogant or just cut them off in their feelings or whatever they're going through at the time.

I will understand, wow, I'm loved so much that I can just love my children the same way. And because I'm loved, I want them to feel that same love. So that changes now my approach. It gives me more listening skills. It gives me more patience. It gives me the ability to not expect things of them that I know God isn't putting on them, but to respect their humanity and respect that they're children and that they're learning and that it's okay to make mistakes.

This is what the Lord was talking to me about. He was saying, you will love better as a father not because you do the right things, but because you understand how much you're loved. And when we understand how much we're loved, it's that me and God, then I get the value for me, me and me, and then it changes how I outwork that with me and people.

Hi everybody, I'm Dr. Nathan Kassas, inviting you to Season Casting 2026, October 3rd to 5th. With Dr. Robyn and the talk team, we'll release prophetic insight for the year ahead. Step into the second year of plenty, stake your claim, and connect heaven to your territory. Details at torcc.org. Now back to First Love.

Now we're in the fifth dimension. This is where everything in this atmosphere begins to change. Fifth dimension is this: it is oneness with the consciousness that is in unity with your creator. I just said some really bad new age words.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: No, they were never new age words. They stole them. They belong to us.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Hang on, for all my techies in the room, let me put it like this: heaven's frequency becomes your operating system. You know we got iOS for the iPad, we got OS for Mac, we got Windows for PC, we got Linux for all the servers. But heaven's operating system is not man's operating system.

I don't know about you, but if you've ever tried to put a PC operating system on a Macintosh computer, it don't work. It's built for difference.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: And we are built for difference.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: We are built for a heavenly operating system. And sometimes we let the lie of being here as the ultimate get into our heads. We're just passing through, ladies and gentlemen. This is not our home.

So what did Jesus say in John 17:21? "That they all may be one, as you and I, Father, are one." I am in you and you are in me and we are one. There is no distance, no separation. I think like you, I speak like you, I move like you. That's what one means. It's not just proximity; it's literally intimacy.

See, you think one is closeness like proximity. I can be the furthest away from him in proximity but yet be in him because we are one in spirit. So don't try to change intimacy for proximity. We'll talk about that another time.

So he says as he is, so we are in this world, 1 John 4:17. So quantumly, fifth position is this: it is superposition. I'm going to give you a couple of terms: entanglement. We're going to learn about that. We're going to do a couple of demonstrations. It is agreement with your creator's resonance and frequency.

We're going to show you another one about that. It is this scripture personified: if you say to this mountain, be removed and do not doubt in your heart, don't let the third-dimension manifestation be your vision.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: Or even the second. Let me say, or even the second dimension, which is just the here and now. That's all that you hang around, the here and now. You have no imagination and no vision to go further.

You see, my God was a visionary. Isn't your God a visionary? I hope he is. Because living in the two dimensions is just here and now. You would be moved by every circumstance and situation in your life if you choose to live there.

And if you get into the third dimension, well, you just take any form of spiritual experience you can and call it God because you need an experience, so whatever the devil throws, you'll take.

And then when you get into the fourth dimension, well, you hop in and out. You pocket in and you pocket out. One minute I'm spiritual, then the next I like the world.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: One minute I like the prophecy, the next minute I despise it.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: Yeah, that's it. Lined up for hours to get it at my first dipping night. Now when they mention dipping night, I ain't going to that event. Nothing they said comes to pass. Oh Lord, we've done it.

You know that I'm prophesying so much lately that's just come to pass after one after the other. Even the latest one about President Donald Trump having a peace treaty. When did I prophesy that?

Dr. Nathan Kassas: March 13th, 7:00 PM of this year.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: And it's happening in October. Wouldn't you like to be the head and not the tail? Wouldn't you like to be in front and not at the back? You know what belongs at the back: "get behind me, Satan." He's the back. You're to be going in the forefront of situations.

And so you can do that. You can be involved in what God is showing you through the Holy Spirit if you exercise faith and see it. It takes just as much to believe as it is to not believe. Come on, we were wired for belief. We were wired for belief.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: But programmed through unbelief.

Dr. Robyn Kassas: Yes, but programmed through unbelief.

Dr. Nathan Kassas: Wired for love but programmed by fear. Come on guys, you were never created to fear. The scripture says be anxious for nothing. "Nothing" means no thing. Be anxious for nothing, and then he gives you what you can be concerned about. Be anxious for nothing but with prayer and fasting and supplication let your requests be known unto God.

Ninety-two percent of our fears are illegal because they might never happen. Look at the energy you waste on them. You waste so much. Oh, oh, my mother had cancer, my grandmother had cancer, my mother had cancer, and I'm possibly going to have cancer too. When did God tell you you're going to have cancer?

There's only eight percent of a hundred percent you're allowed to entertain, and that's "be anxious for nothing." That's eight percent of a hundred percent, but you and I, we've learned to take that whole ninety-two percent and make it our life.

It's time to stop, church, because Jesus is coming for his bride. He's coming for an overcoming church. He's coming; we have to be overcomers.

So let's go to a couple of things and then we'll take our experience. And let's confront something about the state of fear. Because we've given fear a place, but we don't understand that fear is faith in the negative.

So Stephen, bring up profound and confronting statements on fear's frequency, please. Thank you. Number one: fear is faith in reverse. Fear collapses hell's projection into your timeline. Hell has a projection for your life from the moment you take your first breath; hell has a plan.

Second one: every fear rehearsed is a prophecy fulfilled in the wrong direction. Say it again: every fear rehearsed is a prophecy fulfilled in the wrong direction.

We told you, Satan learning you. He got program 7524B and he put it into motion and he's been on assignment. And every time you fear, you give a future that would never happen potential to happen.

Next one: fear vibrates at a frequency that biologically hardens your cells and shortens your life. I am getting my doctorate in holistic functional medicine. I can tell you I have studied this so intensively.

When a spirit of fear, and I'll say a spirit of fear is agreed with by your body, the brain is hijacked by the amygdala. So the frontal cortex is turned off. What does that mean? It means you are not able to process information correctly.

You are pushed to emergency reaction. Why? Because fear says protect yourself at all costs, even if it's not a threat. You know, the amygdala is the thing, you know when you have that fly that's flying around your head and you're sitting there having a conversation and it goes a little close to you and you go... it's not a direct threat, but you're aware of it.

So the amygdala in the brain is the alert system; it's the alarm that turns on: this is a threat. Right now, you're sitting in a room that has air conditioning. The air conditioning is beginning to touch the hairs on the back of your neck. They're creating sensations going up your spinal cord, feeding information to your brain.

A lot of information at once, but your amygdala is at peace because it's determined that's not a threat. But what happens if it gets too hot on the back of your neck and you start to get to the place where you feel like you're going to burn? Immediately your brain is hijacked by the amygdala. Alert, alert, get out, get out, emergency! Fear is a lifestyle of emergency. You want to live in the emergency room for the rest of your life?

Okay, one more, here we go. Fear rewires your brain to expect defeat. Fear rewires your brain to expect defeat. But faith rewires it to expect victory.

Last one, and then we're going to go into our first activation. I'm going to go to number nine: fear creates a fortress of thoughts that cage you in. The more you rehearse the fortress, the harder it is to break free. Over time, fear becomes your identity and you forget that you were created for victory.