Blood Never Sleeps (Part 2)
Join host Clayton Van Huss and author Micah Van Huss on 'Watchman on the Wall,' a program by Southwest Radio Ministries, as they delve into the intriguing world of secret societies and their historical impact. Discover the connections between ancient myths and modern times, and explore the spiritual and cultural significance of these clandestine organizations. The discussion touches on themes from Van Huss' book, 'Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps,' now available on Audible. This insightful program offers a biblical perspective on secret societies and their role in end-times prophecy.
Narrator: Welcome to Watchman on the Wall, a daily outreach of Southwest Radio Ministries and swrc.com. God is still on the throne and prayer changes things. Today, author Micah Van Huss continues his fascinating conversation about the history and impact of secret societies. Friends, as we approach the end of March, we have a problem. Giving this month is currently running $25,000 behind budgeted expenses. That means we need your help.
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Clayton Van Huss: I'm so glad you joined us again today for the Watchman on the Wall program. I am your host today, Clayton Van Huss, joined in the studio with my brother Micah. Micah Van Huss, the author of quite a few books in the Marginal Mysteries series. Micah, welcome to the program.
Micah Van Huss: Thank you for having me, Clayton. We had a good discussion yesterday and I look forward to continuing to have a good discussion today.
Clayton Van Huss: We're going to do a little bit of a catch-up for those who missed yesterday. But first of all, we're talking about *Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps* because now it's available on Audible. You can listen to the audio book, and I love audio books, by the way. Sometimes I'll get an audio book that I listen to on the way to work and back and I think I can use that book in some of my other stuff, so I'll end up having to get the paper copy. So some author has just sold two books to me, the same book. I think people are going to want to use your book for research and study and quoting.
Micah Van Huss: I caution against using me for research and study. I've really enjoyed becoming an author here with Southwest Radio Ministries. It's night and day from when I released my first book, *Ancient Cities*, which has a ton of fun and cool stuff. My writing style has gotten better over four books, you would expect that. *Secret Societies* was my third book. I wouldn't say anything bad about it.
Clayton Van Huss: We left off yesterday with talking about Osiris, the spirit of Osiris. This is an interesting thing. You said he was the first case of mummification. He was the first mummified because he was going to return, and there are prophecies of returns. Can you get into that?
Micah Van Huss: Yes, I can. Osiris, when you look at the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, there's a few particular ones showing him with green skin, and that pretty much says he's a zombie. Osiris comes back to life in Egyptian mythology for a brief period of time after he's killed and chopped into 13 different pieces. He comes back to life briefly because Isis, his wife, resurrects him.
Now again, if you missed yesterday, I'm speculating that Osiris is actually Nimrod. Isis, his wife, is actually Semiramis, Nimrod's wife. She brings him back to life only for a time. He says, I'm resurrected, but I'm going to reincarnate through your son. It's an unholy trinity. Osiris is going to impregnate Isis, and she gives birth to Horus, and it becomes an unholy trinity. But Osiris says, I will come back.
And there are ancient Egyptian writings that talk about Osiris coming back to life. They talk about him in the pyramids. But then we get to some of the Masonic writings that talk about—I think it's Manly P. Hall in *The Masonic Ladder*—he writes that underneath the Great Pyramid at Giza, men enter its portals and they come out as gods.
Well, what Freemasonry—again, you have two sects of Freemasonry, we'll get into that in a minute—but what the darker side of Freemasonry, which I think is the Illuminati-influenced side of Freemasonry, will tell you is that they are looking forward to being reunited with Osiris and becoming gods with him. That's through Manly P. Hall's writings, a famous Freemason.
Albert Pike, another famous Freemason, talks about the resurrection of Osiris. So we get into, I think it was two years ago now, or maybe it was last year, about what they found under the Great Pyramid. Manly P. Hall writes that Osiris is under the Giza Plateau and that you will become gods under there. So what are they finding under the pyramids? Is it actually Osiris's body under there?
There's speculation that Nimrod became Gilgamesh, which would make Osiris Gilgamesh as well. There's the 2003 story that German archaeologists found the tomb of Gilgamesh under the Euphrates River, all kinds of fascinating stuff. But let's bring it to scripture. We get to the end times, and there's three beasts in the book of Revelation.
We have the Antichrist, a human possessed by Satan, the beast from the water. We have the false prophet, which is a man who causes the world to worship the Antichrist. We get into that chapter on the powerful delusion in the book. But then you have the image of the beast. And most traditional Christian scholars for the last 200 years have speculated that the image of the beast is a statue that is animated.
Because I believe it's Revelation 13, scripture does say that the false prophet brings the image of the beast to life in a magical way where people are astounded, like, how did this happen? And that is profound because all throughout scripture, God is the only one who gives life until you get to the false prophet bringing the image to life. Now whether that's symbolic or whether it's literal.
So I speculate, instead of a statue, that the image of the beast is actually Osiris, the mummy of Osiris found and resurrected as the image of the beast that stands in the temple. Folks will speculate it's AI, but it doesn't seem to have a soul, but it does have knowledge. It knows when people are truly worshipping the Antichrist as supernatural knowledge.
So the Bible does mention the beast that was, is not, and will be again. Now, if I'm talking about resurrecting a mummy and Christians are like, oh, this guy's weird. Well guess what? The dead in Christ rise. When Christ is crucified, the dead appear to many. And in the end times, what happens? The dead in Christ rise. So reanimation of dead people should not be foreign to us Christians.
Clayton Van Huss: This is interesting stuff. You're saying that modern secret societies trace their ideas, their beliefs, and quite possibly future events on things from the past, whether we consider them to be mythology or whatever. But how do these things tie into what we know? What's the agenda? What's the reason for these societies to exist? What are they going to do with all this stuff? It sounds like a great horror movie, but what are they doing?
Micah Van Huss: There's two goals of the secret societies. To pass the Great Arcanum. A number of Freemasonry writers, even someone from the Egyptian Solar Brotherhood, which was the first, as far as we know, the first post-diluvian after the flood secret society. The Egyptian Solar Brotherhood talked about how the Great Arcanum, the knowledge, was never to be written down. It's always to be passed through symbolism and allegory.
And some of the more modern Freemason writers, I think Albert Pike says the purpose is to deceive the simple-minded. You pass the knowledge through symbolism and allegory. And that gets us into Freemasonry, where we have the vast amount of symbolism and stuff going on with the Freemasonry.
I mentioned earlier about the darker side of Freemasonry. Now, I have friends who are Freemasons. Someone asked me to join the Freemasons when I was in politics. I politely declined. But there are generally two sects of Freemasonry, and this all happened around the founding of our country. We know that George Washington was a Freemason.
We also know that George Washington, we have his letter, he says, I know about this sect called the Illuminati, and I have not set foot in a Freemason lodge in 30 years. That's one of the letters that George Washington writes. The year our country is founded, 1776, or declared its independence, we find the Illuminati is born in Bavaria, 1776, and the goal of the Illuminati was to foment revolutions throughout Europe and by extension the colonies.
And that is what we see, the Age of Revolutions right after 1776. During the 1800s, you have all the revolutions throughout Europe, France, etc. But Benjamin Franklin actually adhered to this Illuminati style of Freemasonry. The Illuminati officially never lasted very long, 15 to 20 years. They were snuffed out pretty quickly.
But what they did is they were a new secret society, a new organization. They needed members. So what better way to get members than to infiltrate Freemason lodges? So they sent all their members into Freemason lodges and started recruiting, and that's how the Illuminati got big quick. So they infiltrated Freemasonry.
You see a schism in Freemasonry at the founding of our country between George Washington and the godly men who were Freemasons and Benjamin Franklin, who based his understandings on what I believe are the princes of the powers of the air that are behind the scenes influencing.
The idea that these princes of the powers of the air, the spiritual entities of which Satan is the prince of princes on that side, they are very involved in molding the hearts of mankind. Anyone who is not a follower of Christ or not paying attention falling into that. And that is what inspired me to write my next book, *Angels Eternal: War of the Princes*, but we're not necessarily going to get into all that. But it was just such a fascinating thought. I saw how powerful these entities were behind the scenes.
So the schism in Freemasonry, you see it in our Declaration of Independence. You have three different names for God: Divine Nature's God, Almighty God, all kinds of different names. And so Thomas Jefferson was heavily influenced by Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin was into all kinds of dark stuff. He was part of the Hellfire Club in Europe, which was a sex club, different things that Benjamin Franklin was into.
After George Washington's death, the Illuminati side of Freemasonry wanted to stick it to George Washington and the biblical Freemasonry, that's probably not the best way to say it, but the Freemasons who adhere to God. They painted the Apotheosis of Washington under the Capitol Rotunda ceiling.
If you go to the United States Capitol today and you look up, you will see this Apotheosis of Washington. It's a painting of George Washington sitting among the Roman gods. It is George Washington's ascension into godhood. And so that was to say that no, the Illuminati style of Freemasonry has won. The biblical believers who were Freemasons are done.
Another interesting thing you'll see around the Apotheosis of Washington are 72 stars. And what do stars represent throughout all most cultures of ancient? They represent angels. So what are these 72 stars around the painting? Well, that gets us a lot into *Angels Eternal*, but I do talk about it in *Secret Societies*. The 72 gods of the nations. This is right after the Tower of Babel. I'm not going to go too deep into this. God divides the world into 70 to 72 nations.
Clayton Van Huss: Right, depending on the text you follow. And I'm going to take just a moment here to let our listeners know because this is exciting. If you want to know more about this, give us a call at 1-800-652-1144. That's 1-800-652-1144. We're talking with Micah Van Huss, the author of *Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps*, now available on Audible, or visit us at swrc.com. Let's go back to these stars, the 72 celestial beings, if you will.
Micah Van Huss: That's the number of the gods throughout most of ancient symbolism. The 72—and it's debated 70 or 72—because the King James Version, the Masoretic Text, gives 70 in the Table of Nations in Genesis. But the Greek Septuagint gives 72. Later in the King James in the Masoretic, Luke gives 72, and also in the Greek Septuagint. So three of the four talk 72, and then the King James Masoretic talks 70.
So there is some debate on if it's 72 or 70, but generally 72 represents these gods of old. This is Deuteronomy chapter 32, verse 7, 8, and 9. And this is where God divides the world. And this is where God chooses Israel. At what point in history did God choose Israel? Deuteronomy 32:9. God chooses His nation, and He gives the other nations, the 69 or 71, over to the fallen angels. And this is a fascinating study that we really get into in *Angels Eternal*.
But you do have this. Also, on the back side of the United States dollar bill, how many bricks are in the unfinished pyramid? 72. So again, you're seeing a lot of symbolism hearkening back to the old gods. The two goals of the secret societies: to pass the knowledge of the Watchers, teaching you that you don't need God, you are a god yourself.
And this is really prevalent in theosophy, the New Age movement. You will one day join the gods in the cosmos if you become an ascended master. And they teach that Jesus was an ascended master, he wasn't God, but he was an ascended master, that's what they say. Buddha was an ascended master, Sir Francis Bacon was an ascended master, theories about him being immortal showing up over hundreds of years.
The other thing that the secret societies are trying to do, again influenced by the princes of the powers of the air, they are trying to usher in a final battle against what they call the oppressive God of the Bible. Well guess what? They are going to get their battle. It's called the Battle of Armageddon, but they're not going to win.
Clayton Van Huss: Well, you know, this stuff went on during the times of the early church with Gnosticism. I don't know if any of this ties in, but I see these very things you're talking about. These were the things that you read about the New Testament that are being combated. They're talking about, oh, this oppressive God of the Old Testament needs to be destroyed, and they're using Jesus as kind of their way against that. Could this stuff tie into some of the things we're told to watch out for?
Micah Van Huss: Yes, absolutely. Again, the message is not new. The message is from the beginning of the Garden of Eden. The serpent tells Eve, you can become as God. It's a message that you don't need God. And we have people falling in droves here in modern society to these ideals that they will be ascended into God.
It doesn't matter, they're called the hermetic philosophies, the hermetic religions, whether it's karma, you reincarnate and become a better version of yourself, whether or not you are supposed to ascend, like theosophy teaches in New Age, ascend into the stars with the gods if you become good enough. It's an ancient message, and so they are passing it along.
Let me finish touching up a little bit on the Freemasonry and their Christian version versus the Illuminati version. They will push forward, even the ones influenced by the princes of the powers of the air, the ones at the top, they will push forward that they are a Christian organization. The second fellowcraft degree ceremony contains the pillars of Jachin and Boaz where an initiate walks through.
Well, the pillars of Jachin and Boaz were what Solomon named his two pillars in his temple. So they will push all kinds of different things like, hey, we're a Christian organization. So let's push that. But again, there's something darker going on behind the scenes. Satan is the great deceiver. He is the prince of the princes, the evil ones.
The New Testament says so much, he's the prince of this world. I think when he's tempting Jesus on top of the temple, I'm trying not to get into my *Angels Eternal* book, which is all about these princes of the powers of the air behind the scenes and the war that Jesus comes to win. I'll state real quick, Jesus came to the earth for three reasons.
Salvation is what most Christians understand and what know of, and I'm most thankful for. Jesus also came to reverse the curse at Babel, and He also came to reverse the curse of the Watchers that descended on Mount Hermon. As far as reversing the curse of Babel, we have the world divided into 70 different nations. What does Jesus do? He sends out 70 disciples into the world.
At Babel, the languages are confounded. What do those 70 disciples do? When they speak, everyone hears in their own language regardless of what comes out of the mouth. So this is a direct reversal of the Tower of Babel.
Clayton Van Huss: Oh yes, Pentecost. I think that's clear. I know like Michael Heiser, he taught that, that Pentecost was a reversal that you see God reclaiming the nations where He divorced them at Babel, He remarries them at Pentecost. Is this part of that same battle?
Micah Van Huss: These gods of old, they are mentioned throughout the Old Testament and if you pay attention, you know what's going on. So not only is reversing the language part of Jesus's reversal of Babel, but it's also defeating these princes that God placed over the nations.
And in Psalm 82 He says, I will bring all nations back to Myself. So when you start seeing in the New Testament all over where it talks about Jesus inheriting the kingdoms of the world, when you understand that the kingdoms were given to the evil princes after Babel, it's all read totally with a new light.
So we see Jesus inheriting the kingdoms of the world. Let's look at Psalm chapter 22. This is supposedly written by David, we attribute it to David, written a thousand years before Christ. It talks about the bulls of Bashan that surround him and the lion chattering and it talks about them casting lots for his vestures. This is gambling for his clothes.
This is a thousand years before Christ, it's a prophecy of what's happening to Jesus at the cross. So not only do you have the humans that are around Jesus at the cross, you have the unseen at least 70 princes of the nations around Jesus at the cross according to Psalm 22.
The 70 bulls, bulls of Bashan, you read in the Old Testament about the cows of Bashan. In the Feast of Tabernacles, I believe, the Israelites sacrifice 70 bulls, a number each day until they get to 70. And this Feast of Tabernacles, the secondary reason for it is to say that God will inherit all nations.
So we're seeing these bulls of Bashan and we get to the New Testament—sorry, I don't have the reference off the top of my head—it says the princes of this world would not have crucified Jesus if they knew that crucifixion was the catalyst for salvation. When Satan takes Jesus up on top of the temple, he says, see all these kingdoms?
In a moment of time, which is another time anomaly that we talk about in *Angels Eternal*. He says, all these kingdoms I will give to you if you bow to me. Jesus Christ was prophesied to inherit those nations and Satan offered him those nations without the pain of the cross and Jesus rejected.
It's a lot like Galadriel in *Lord of the Rings* when she rejects the ring. Jesus rejects the opportunity to have the nations just as prophesied in the Old Testament without the pain of the cross. We see in the New Testament it says, I tell you a mystery, had the princes of this world knew, they would not have crucified our Lord.
I believe it's 1 Thessalonians, Jesus after He dies on the cross and resurrects, it says He has spoiled the principalities and powers. In other words, He has defeated them. It's a ton of fascinating topics. There towards the end we've kind of crossed over because from *Secret Societies* to *Angels Eternal*, but I do talk about these princes of the nations a lot through *Secret Societies* because they are what's going on behind the scenes.
We have a few seconds. There's a number of topics in *Secret Societies* that I did not get to cover, in fact most of them: the secrets of the Smithsonian, the cover-up of the giant bones in America, the possibility that Egyptians lived in the Grand Canyon.
We didn't get into the Knights Templar, the origins of a lot of the modern secret societies, Knights Templar. What do you see on Christopher Columbus's sails? You see the red cross of the Templars. What do you see in the portraits of all these early American explorers? They're wearing red Templar crosses hundreds of years after the Templars were snuffed out.
And there's plenty of other stuff: the modern World Economic Forum, Bilderberg Group, the bloodlines of the Illuminati, the powerful families, the Rockefellers. We go over all that in the book and we didn't even get to that. Again, it's available on Audible, feel free to check it out.
Clayton Van Huss: Thank you so much, Micah Van Huss, the author of *Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps*. Give us a call at 1-800-652-1144. That's 1-800-652-1144 or visit us online at swrc.com. Micah, thank you so much for joining me today and talking with me about this interesting topic.
Micah Van Huss: It's always a fun discussion.
Narrator: *Secret Societies*, the best-selling book by Micah Van Huss, is now available as an audio book. Where did secret societies originate? What role do they play in the end times? Find out in the new audio book *Secret Societies*.
Order *Secret Societies* the book and audio book today when you call 1-800-652-1144. That's 1-800-652-1144. Or order *Secret Societies* on our website, swrc.com. Since the days of Nimrod rooted in the knowledge of the antediluvian Watchers, secret societies have been working to usher in human enlightenment, ascend humanity into godhood, and provoke a final battle with the Creator.
They will get their battle. It'll be the Battle of Armageddon, but they will not win. In the new audio book *Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps*, you'll study history's most prominent secret societies and their lasting effects on our culture, religion, government, and laws.
Join Micah in exploring the answers to these questions from a biblical worldview and discussing the topics that your Sunday school teacher didn't talk about. *Secret Societies*, order today. 1-800-652-1144. Dr. Larry Spargimino and Josh Davis come now for an important ministry update, sharing the latest details of what is happening here at Southwest Radio Ministries and Watchman on the Wall.
Josh Davis: Greetings, friends. I'm joined by Pastor Larry Spargimino, the host of Watchman on the Wall, to provide an update to what God is doing here through Southwest Radio Ministries and Prophecy in the News. Pastor Larry, it's wonderful to be with you again.
Larry Spargimino: Well, it's good to hear your voice. I just love the opportunity. We've had a lot of good fellowship together and I'm certainly looking forward to our discussion at this time.
Josh Davis: Yes, God's been good to our ministry as He sustains us and continues to open up doors of opportunity to allow us to get out His message as loudly and clearly as we possibly can in these days that we find ourselves in.
And we are excited in just over a month to be at Kansas, back at Wichita, Kansas area, to be more specific, in Bel Aire, Kansas. And that's going to be Friday and Saturday, May 1st and 2nd, at the Sunrise Christian Academy with our good friends Dr. Rob Lindsted, Mark Lindsted.
We're so excited to be joined together with many wonderful friends for this weekend Bible Prophecy Conference. And Pastor Larry, I know that you're planning to join us and you've got a special message that you want to share while we're there at the conference. Could you talk a little bit about what you'll be discussing at the upcoming Kansas conference?
Larry Spargimino: Yes, I want to discuss a very, very relevant topic. And the title is *How the Professing Church Fueled the Fires of Anti-Semitism and Continues to Do So*. I've been doing a lot of research and I'm absolutely heartbroken at what so-called Christians or the institutional church, what they've done.
For example, we'll be looking at the church today and we have replacement theology and there are some who are still very anti-Semitic. There are people like Tucker Carlson who claims he's not anti-Semitic, but Jewish websites have said he's the anti-Semite of the year, and Candace Owens.
But if we go back to the medieval church, and I'm thinking about 400 to 1500 approximately, this period saw the building of great cathedrals and a general expansion of papal power. In this period, there have been several church councils and theological treatises, believe it or not, that were written against Jews and Judaism. Here are some of the rules, proclamations, and results. Absolutely shocking that this would have been done in the name of Christ. Number one, Judaism and its practice was outlawed.
Josh Davis: Thank you, Pastor Larry, for previewing what you're going to be talking about at the upcoming Kansas conference happening in Bel Aire, Kansas, just outside of Wichita at the Sunrise Christian Academy. It's going to be on May 1st and 2nd, 2026.
Friends, this conference is free. That's right, I said it's totally free for you to come. And we'll have all kinds of wonderful resources on-site: books, DVDs, so much more. Plus, it's a wonderful opportunity to enrich yourselves with this kind of information and to connect with the speakers, connect with like-minded believers in this time that we live.
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Larry Spargimino: Thank you for the discussion and for the work that you do for our ministry.
Narrator: *Secret Societies*, the best-selling book by Micah Van Huss, is now available as an audio book. Where did secret societies originate? What role do they play in the end times? Find out in the new audio book *Secret Societies*.
Order your copy today when you call 1-800-652-1144. That's 1-800-652-1144. You can also order *Secret Societies* at swrc.com. In the new audio book *Secret Societies: Blood Never Sleeps*, you'll study history's most prominent secret societies and their lasting effects on our culture, religion, government, and laws.
Join Micah in exploring the answers to these questions from a biblical worldview and discussing the topics that your Sunday school teacher didn't talk about. *Secret Societies*, order today when you call 1-800-652-1144. That's 1-800-652-1144.
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