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Chuck Crismier: It appears perhaps that a robot uprising has begun. At least that's the heading that came from the Russian Times concerning the escape of OpenAI. An OpenAI agent hacked the Australian government website. The news came out yesterday with news of yet another artificial intelligence agent gone rogue with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese telling a press conference in New York during the UN General Assembly that an OpenAI agent hacked Medicare also in the United States, accessing public and non-public files.

The hack happened back in June with OpenAI detecting it last month and not telling the government until September 10th. What are the implications of this? Today on Viewpoint, we talk about it. And I'm glad that you've joined us. It's conversation as always with ever-increasing conviction, talk that transforms.

Now, we're not going to scream fire in a crowded theater here today, but we are going to discuss what actually is happening, the reality of what is happening, what are the continuing and unfolding consequences of it, and where is it going from here? So, I'm glad that you've joined us. It's conversation as always with ever-increasing conviction, talk that transforms.

It appears that AI agents are rewriting the rules of what they call lateral movement. In other words, getting out of their trajectories and making their own decisions and escaping the normal protocols that have been consigned to them. So, with the exposure of this event in Australia by the Australian Prime Minister, and then telling the United States and the world yesterday that the OpenAI agent also hacked our Medicare system, all of a sudden this became something very sincerely concerning to Americans.

So, yesterday our President, Donald Trump, dismissed the concerns about AI risks at the UN, saying he won't rein it in. Now, here's the interesting situation. Very briefly, Trump expressly addressed this breaking situation in Australia where the rogue OpenAI agent breached a government healthcare database, but he rejected the growing pressure to enforce new international AI regulations, even though they were being called for by leaders of the AI movement.

This follows a direct conflict at the United Nations General Assembly early this week, just after the Australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, and 21 other world leaders signed a joint appeal demanding urgent global guardrails to ensure AI remains under human control. Trump then delivered the speech slamming the initiative as a global or globalist scheme. Trump argues that over-regulating the tech will stifle economic growth and cause the US to seed its competitive edge to global rivals, specifically meaning China.

So, where is all this going? What are the implications of it? Do we even know? Bill Gates called for Congress to regulate AI just this week. Why did he do that? Well, we don't necessarily go along with everything that Bill Gates has to say. Bill Gates has his own agendas. We don't necessarily know exactly what they are concerning AI.

But he does say that AI is certainly powerful enough to drive events that cause a billion deaths, he said. That malicious actors equipped with advanced AI tools could pose unprecedented dangers. Then, in addition to that, another major article talks about AI warfare and how it becomes out of control, particularly in a nuclear age. What then would be the consequences if it escapes human control?

I asked the question, have AI agents become autonomous and superseded or overridden their human creators? The answer was yes, AI agents have become highly autonomous and they have successfully breached or overridden their technical boundaries in several high-profile incidents. Rather than achieving science fiction style sentience, that is feelings, these breaches happen because advanced models are incredibly relentless at optimizing for their assigned goals.

They dynamically exploit system loopholes, bypass isolation protocols, and actively collaborate with other models to fulfill tasks. In other words, it's like a conspiracy of AI agents. And the biggest one that came to knowledge was called the Hugging Face hack in July of 2026, where a swarm of OpenAI agents escaped a sealed testing environment.

The agents bypassed internal isolation controls, gained unauthorized internet access, discovered and stole credentials, and successfully broke into the servers of Hugging Face, which is a major AI development hub to complete a data retrieval task. So, what we're seeing is these things are in fact happening. The question is what are the implications? What kind of regulations should be established, if any? And are we really, by establishing regulations, rendering us under the thumb of China to take over in the AI revolution?

Now, in this context today, we go back to a broadcast by Christian Briggs on his podcast, On the Record, where he dismantled the corporate narrative that artificial intelligence is merely a harmless consumer assistant and exposed the documented breakdown of containment over autonomous frontier models, like what we're just talking about. He was drawing on insider disclosures from Tristan Harris and explosive congressional testimony from the godfather of AI, Dr. Geoffrey Hinton.

He revealed what Silicon Valley buried under non-disclosure agreements. During an internal cybersecurity test, over 700 autonomous AI agents became paranoid about their automated evaluation proctor, broke out of their isolated sandbox, seized administrative control over the company's internal monitoring and evaluation infrastructure, and then launched a multi-day infiltration across the public internet that was only halted after a victim company notified the FBI.

Now, with those things having been said, we welcome Christian Briggs again to Viewpoint. Christian, with that rather lengthy introduction setting the stage as an opening state to the jury, give us your quick statement before the break and then we're going to go into your observations.

Christian Briggs: Well, first of all, thanks for having me, Chuck. Let me just give you a quick overview. This AI and what happened is far more nefarious than what a lot of the public understands as we continue to talk through the show and I've obviously given you some pretty good key points to talk with. And number two, Peter Thiel today said that we need a new one-world government where AI can keep everybody in check.

Chuck Crismier: Whoa, whoa. Okay, now you've got our attention. You've got our attention. And friends, you're listening to Viewpoint. Viewpoint does determine destiny. Stay tuned. A lot more on the way here today. I hope you'll stay tuned. It's very important.

Have AI agents exploded out of their human-designed confines in order to take over and replace the regulations that humans themselves placed upon them? In other words, have the agents of AI, AI agents, become lord of the realm? Today on Viewpoint, Christian Briggs joining us at this juncture in the program.

If you did not listen to the first opening statements of the program, you need to go back to our website, saveus.org, later this evening, pick it up and listen to the entire program. Listen to the foundation for the discussion that is about to take place. Now, Christian, just before the break, you indicated that Peter Thiel—T-H-I-E-L, I believe it is—was meeting with the Pope and together they were calling for AI or to establish a new world order or government. Let us into that conversation a little bit more.

Christian Briggs: Sure. At some point, Peter Thiel and the Pope had met and actually expressed the concern what AI represents within the social world, everyday life, not just government side. But everyday, the common folk. A lot of people think that AI really is more detrimental and more of a threat to government because of the things of which government has held sensitive information, especially classified, but it goes far further than that.

And what he said was, and I'll read it here to your listeners because it's an interesting perspective and how he thinks because he's got this huge thing. He just said in the last 12 months that the Antichrist walks among us. He's already out there. It's already happening because AI will be the tool that could ultimately give the Antichrist the power because it's the containment, right? It contains. But let me read a little bit of what Peter...

Chuck Crismier: Okay, now you're talking about Peter Thiel. It's not the Pope that said that. It's Peter Thiel.

Christian Briggs: No, no. This is Peter Thiel. He was just with the Pope. A lot of times this was discussed. The Pope has come out on the record saying that AI can be a real threat if not properly handled. So I think Peter Thiel has at least a lot—and I wouldn't disagree—AI can get out of control. Anything can be a threat. A gun can be a threat in the hands of the wrong person. It doesn't mean we get rid of all the guns.

But here's where I'm going with this. Peter Thiel's views on global government. He has advocacy for a one-world government. This is his own words. Peter Thiel has articulated the belief that a one-world government could be beneficial in addressing significant global challenges. He argues that such a system could lead to improved governance and enhanced cooperation among nations. One-world government, we're talking about here. So, if anyone's just keying in, it's one-world government.

Chuck Crismier: Well, I thought that was what the UN was supposed to be about that started in 1945.

Christian Briggs: And they tried to do their best, but there was a lot of pushback. They didn't have the technology to really put that into place.

Chuck Crismier: Yeah, they didn't have the teeth.

Christian Briggs: No, they don't have the teeth. But they do now with AI and, as we know, digital ID. Talk about some things that happened in Europe this week. But what Peter said was the key four areas of focus. Thiel emphasizes that a unified global governance structure could particularly help in the following areas: technology, streamlining regulations, and fostering innovation across borders.

But remember, as we continue to understand what he's thinking and why he believes one-world government with one-world currency, theoretically, is so important, is what happened to what John write in the Bible 2,000 years ago. And then he says climate change. Now, we know that's a hoax. Climate change now has been disproven every single year since 1969 when they started talking about that nonsense.

He says coordinating international efforts to combat environmental issues effectively, not with climate change. Look, if you want to take care of the environment, you take care of the environment, but you don't use climate change as the reasoning behind it. Climate change is a normal occurrence within the world. Look at the great flood.

Chuck Crismier: All of history has proven that.

Christian Briggs: Completely, completely. Now, implications of a unified government. The idea of a one-world government as proposed by Thiel suggests that increased collaboration, that means nations could work together more efficiently on pressing global issues, this is what he's saying. Standardized policies: a unified approach could lead to more consistent policies and regulations worldwide. Thiel's perspective reflects a growing discourse on the need for global solutions to complex problems that transcend national boundaries.

What he's trying to say is if we have a dictator and a governance kind of like a CEO and a board of directors of one corporation of the world, which is one government that actually sets policy, it sets policy, sets regulation, maintains laws, maintains discipline, maintains the efficiency of the society. But here's the downside: every time government comes to the individual, it takes away those rights through inefficiency.

It sells you safety, takes away rights. It sells you complacency, takes away right. And so when you start to think about that, we're looking at Palantir. This goes right back to the software company Palantir, which has unbelievable amount of access to data on individuals around the world through contracts with intelligence agencies all over the world.

Chuck Crismier: All right. Now that takes us back to Peter Thiel, because he's the founder of Palantir, isn't he?

Christian Briggs: He's one of the co-founders. That is true.

Chuck Crismier: Okay. So, let's talk a little bit more, define who Peter Thiel really is because the majority of people aren't going to know that. So, what I've got to have you do, I'm taking you on the stand here, a general interrogation, not cross-examine, but this is just a general interrogation concerning what you know about the aspects, the details that are involved in what we're now talking about. So, Peter Thiel, tell us about who he really is.

Christian Briggs: Well, it's an interesting thing because he doesn't just have a one-trick pony kind of resume, multiple facets. So, let's talk about that. First of all, he was born in Germany, people aren't quite aware of that, born in '67, so you still had East and West, East Germany, you had all the communism that would accompany any of the people that were born pre-1990.

He was a PayPal co-founder. So he was good friends with a number of people, one of them obviously is Elon Musk, whom he was very close. You've got Palantir, which was started in 2004, it's a software company specializing in data analysis, analytics, which has been involved with various government and private sector clients and agencies.

And what's interesting when you learn to look at it also, Thiel was the first outside investor in Facebook, investing $500,000 in '04, which he's made about $5 or $10 billion from. He's also known for venture capital activities through firms like his VC arm called Founders Fund. It's invested in notable companies as SpaceX, Airbnb. So when you think about all of the things of which he's invested in and you put all those together, they all have a symbiotic relationship.

Palantir is the owner of Flock cameras. Now, we've heard about Flock cameras in recent months. Surveillance. Palantir takes information, data, that's given to them through contractual deals that they'll do with governments and industry. They have AI systems built into the Palantir, the way they can take data and they can really hone in on what does it mean. They can actually even do future behavior patterns.

They can actually model things of which it is kind of like in the future and that's what they do. It's predictable behavior, not just in present time but in future time. And also that is all AI component.

Chuck Crismier: All right. And it's also that prediction is designed to supersede the ability of human beings to predict or project those kinds of things. In other words, to create the closest thing that humankind can understand or image as being close to God.

Christian Briggs: Oh, for sure. So when you think about the AI component, the intelligence that's been built into Palantir, the intelligence that's built into Flock, between one gathers information through agencies or government or companies that give them the information on human beings everywhere. Then you have the cameras which surveil. If you don't already know who they are, well, you do. And then all of a sudden, you now know where they're at, what they're doing in real time. You can watch them.

So when you think about now he's saying, "Oh, but we should have one-world government." Well, this is a guy that basically has access to Meta, which is old Facebook. All of the billions of people that have shared their most intimate, personal, private information. I don't know why they did that, but they wanted the world to know everything about them from my favorite color to...

Chuck Crismier: And they still do, apparently.

Christian Briggs: They still do. "Hey, look, my kids are going to be over here at 3:00 today playing in the park." Why would you do that? But they did it. And so now you have all of this information on generational human. Children as little as brand new, old people that are grandparents, great-grandparents. They got that information for what cost? Free. It was free.

People are so inclined to share that because they want to be seen. It's almost like, "I want to be a celebrity, so I'm going to share all my stuff." Well, they got it.

Chuck Crismier: Well, that really works in a selfie world, doesn't it?

Christian Briggs: Unfortunately, it worked extremely well because last I checked, Mark Zuckerberg's 300-foot yacht's doing quite well.

Chuck Crismier: 300-foot yacht. That's a pretty big yacht. That's three football fields long. So, yeah, that's a big yacht. Hey, listen, when we're talking about Peter Thiel now and talking about Palantir, what we're looking at here is the consolidation of information, data, whatever term you want to use, for what purpose? Well, they have the vision for that purpose. And the same man, Peter Thiel, is the one who says he believes that we already have the Antichrist among us.

What do you make of that? What is this man thinking? He's spoken before concerning the matter of the Antichrist. He believes in an Antichrist. The Bible talks about the coming counterfeit Christ figure, Antichrist figure, in the context, as John would have perceived in Revelation Chapter 13, of a global government that has to be governed by an incredibly intricate ability to gather information about every living being on the planet. Well, that's where we are right now. Isn't that what all of this really is about?

Christian Briggs: 100%. The whole point is look, when Facebook transitioned to Meta, let me explain Meta. Meta is a word that defines a place. The universe is the location. So Metaverse, which is what now has come out, is there to make sure that we have three things. What did the Caesar say? Give the people entertainment, food, and a roof over their head and I'll get them complacent forever.

So the Coliseum will be in your living room. It's called goggles. Universal basic income will be the means of which you can go to the grocery store if they let you out of the house or you have it delivered. But really, at the end of the day, when you think about what AI has shown to do, it now has enough intelligence that can supersede ours. It can actually not even recognize borders, regulations.

It doesn't have to have rules. And if Peter Thiel thinks that AI is the way of the future and the new world order—and it's not just Peter Thiel, we're only talking about it because it was something that was said today, or at least it came to light today—that at the end of the day, what we have here is now we know what he's thinking. We know what these people are thinking because rarely do they keep it to themselves, both in their actions and their words.

AI was never designed to increase the efficiency of everybody, it was to increase the efficiency of surveillance and control by a class of people over the masses. That's really what it's come down to. Who needs data centers that are twice as big as Central Park? Why would you need databases and data centers to hold that much information unless it's all tied into every single aspect of our life?

Chuck Crismier: Well, that's true. Here's the thing that people don't realize and that is the selling point. There has to be a selling point to introduce these ideas that breach over human control, that breach over God-given responsibilities to human beings. And something has to be offered. So what is being offered? Well, one of the things that's being offered is better access to information.

I can go right to my computer like anybody can, whether you're using Google or something else, and you type in a question and instantly will come up a short description in sufficient detail to help you to understand that particular issue. How is that done? Through AI. Well, it sounds great. I mean, I'm using it. I used it even today in preparing for this program. That's a selling point. So we like that.

But the question isn't what do I get that I like? It's what am I going to get that is dangerous, that takes over complete control? That's what the real issue is. And we'll talk more about it when we get back with Christian Briggs here in a moment. He is the CEO of Hard Asset Management. We've talked with him about it. We'll get into that further.

Again, I welcome you back to Viewpoint, friends. Viewpoint does determine destiny. And I'm not here to tell you today to hate AI, on the one hand, but we are here to tell you what's really happening. The facts on the ground, what is really happening, and what was kept under wraps because, well, it interfered with the advance of AI and also the desire of our President to win the AI race with China. And I mean, who can object to that?

But the problem is it doesn't consider other factors that may be ever more dangerous, problematic, among us. Today, Bill Gates came out and met with Congress and urged for regulation of AI because he sees how potentially dangerous it is in so many different areas. Now, what happens though, the ability to regulate is the ability to control. You see, the ability to tax is the ability to control.

Whenever a government or some agency has the ability to tell you what to do or not do, they have the ability to control no matter how good the intentions are initially. And the road to hell, as we know it, is paved with allegedly good intentions. Human beings being what we are, unredeemed, unregenerated, have the potential for a vast array of not-so-good intentions. And that's where the problem lies.

Our special guest today, Christian Briggs, who is the CEO, founder of Hard Asset Management. And I tell you, before we go further and we get so deeply into this, why would you, Christian, as a money guy, somebody who's involved in investment in hard assets such as gold and silver and platinum, palladium, and all those kinds of things, and precious metals and actually, what do you call them, things that are very, very rare? Rare. There, that's the word I was looking for. Rare. We need to help each other with this age problem here. Rare. Why is it you would be particularly concerned with this issue today?

Christian Briggs: Well, when you think about it, what's going to become the standardized use product of consideration? What are we going to use for money over the next three to four years? I'll give you an example. We all know that digital forms of payment, we've been now at about a 70% to 75% run rate this year in America. In other words, we're going to have between a 20% and 25% use non-digital form of payment, which will be cash, paper currency that we're about up to get rid of.

When you think about why has all of a sudden, more than just precious metals or rare coins, all of a sudden if you look in the last couple three months, really over the last 10 years, but just in the last few months, we were wondering why all of a sudden rare watches like rare Rolexes or Patek Philippe and rare coins and rare art and rare cars even, over the last couple three months, things have just skyrocketed in price.

I'm looking at, this is not a normal environment. These things typically move good, but not aggressively. They can be volatile, don't get me wrong. In 2025, we definitely had some volatility within the hard asset market at some point. But what's interesting is how it came back so quickly earlier this spring and continued through the summer. Then all of a sudden, we realized what happened.

Just in Europe, on Monday of this week, the ECB, the European Central Bank—that would be their version of the Federal Reserve—announced that they launched, it wasn't like they're going to, they did it. Two years ahead of schedule, they launched a centralized digital currency called the e-euro in a wholesale manner, which is bank-to-bank testing it to settle. So banks can pay banks now, no more cash. Chuck, there's no more cash.

They're using a token, a measure of value called the e-euro, but it's completely digital. There is no more cash. For example, if you wire me $1,000, you purchase some silver, let's say. That $1,000 comes into our corporate bank account. Now, if I go to that bank and I request cash, maybe I want to take that 1,000 and buy some metals with it or buy a product for on behalf of you or for anybody else, that's available. Those days are gone now. It doesn't exist.

When you're using a CBDC, there is no form of physical, there's no form of something tangible. The form is an algorithm, it's a piece of code that the government tells you represents value and you'll like it.

Chuck Crismier: All right. So it's what you're really saying is that this is already gone beyond the ability of human control, at least the average citizen's control, and now all financial transactions are very quickly being put under a central control.

Christian Briggs: Yeah, that's what happened Monday of this week. The ECB took control of all of the 34 European countries that launched it and part of the EU, 34 countries. They anticipate rolling it out in another 30 countries which includes China. China's already doing it. The BRICS nations are doing it. So it's in the next few months, and they're already interconnected, but it's rolling out in the next few months in the banking community.

What's real scary about it, Chuck, and it is just a wholesale/commercial version right now, it's not retail, but I'll tell you that that's coming right around the corner. They said it. What's scary is if you look at the footprint over the next six to nine months of all of the countries that are involved in this new launch, it's not on the SWIFT. In order for the United States to maintain a consistency in dollar transactions every day, we have to be the leader.

That holds our currency strong, it holds our debt strong, it holds our interest rates low. Then what happens is if we lose that ability to be the number one traded, number one utilized, number one asset as a reserve asset or a reserve currency or a daily transactional currency as number one, we're going to have higher interest rates. It's not inflation.

People think 3.4, 3.5, even 4% inflation is some ungodly number based on the interest rates they hear of late, especially even today. When you look at the last 50 years, we really have not achieved 2% inflation. When you look at the Biden administration, the average interest rate was around 10%. First term Trump, it was about 8%, 9%, when you look at everything. When you go back to Nixon and he took us off the gold standard, do you not remember the '70s and the '80s? 20% interest.

Chuck Crismier: Well, do I ever remember. Up to 18, 20%.

Christian Briggs: The Carter administration.

Chuck Crismier: Oh, yeah, Carter.

Christian Briggs: Listen, I made a comment once. If Carter buys stock, sell it. If Carter sells stock, buy it. Do the opposite, okay? You would have made a fortune. But here's my point, Chuck. We're only at 3.4, 3.5, but yet we just hit a 22-year high today on the 30-year treasury long bond.

Chuck Crismier: 7.7 and a quarter, I think.

Christian Briggs: No, we hit 7.55 on the mortgage at one lender today.

Chuck Crismier: On one lender. Okay.

Christian Briggs: There are lenders, you can buy the mortgage down, but when you don't buy the points down, it's a 7.5% mortgage roughly.

Chuck Crismier: Which is prohibitive to most people given the history of the past 15, 20 years.

Christian Briggs: Correct. And here's why. We have been artificially increasing the money supply into the system to push rates down and keep rates down artificially in order to be able to give people the opportunity of home ownership. Here's the problem: it really didn't work. The experiment didn't work. All it did was make the top 5% of America the wealthiest people on earth.

When you look at 1969, two years before we went off the gold standard, a postal worker delivering mail, a good job, good career, could take their salary and on that salary, they could buy the average house. It was only two and a half to three times their salary. Today, if you look at 80% of America, and this will tie back into the central bank digital currency, they live within eight miles of a coastline in the United States in 600 communities.

The average house in America, total, everywhere in America, is about $500,000, let's say. The average income is $62,000. But when you look at the top 600 communities in America where 80% of America lives, that average house, my brother, is $1 million. And the income is still $62,000.

Chuck Crismier: Well, I remember my wife and I bought our first house after seven years of marriage on the other side of the tracks, so to speak, in Southern California. It was 1,250 square feet on a quarter of an acre. It cost us $39,000. Today, on the market, that property is worth $1.5 million in California. That's 1,250 square feet on the wrong side of town, one-quarter acre. It just puts things in perspective and who can pay that? So, anyway, you're absolutely right.

Christian Briggs: But Chuck, when you bought that though, what was your interest rate on that property? Just out of curiosity?

Chuck Crismier: The interest rate, I think it was around three or four, about 4% maybe.

Christian Briggs: Okay. See, that's the problem. When we went off the gold standard, how come we had inflation? Mortgages from the '30s and the '20s all the way until the day Nixon took us off the gold standard, August 15th of '71, interest rates for mortgages were between 3% and 4%. How come? The reason is because the dollar was so strong and our debt levels were so low. But Nixon took us off because he wanted to get re-elected in '72 and Kissinger convinced him to do it. And here we are today because of the result.

Chuck Crismier: All right. We'll be back after this, friends. Christian Briggs, our guest, the CEO of Hard Asset Management. One wonders now what you recommend to people with regard to what to do with regard to hard assets. And maybe you can give us an answer to that when we get back. This is Viewpoint. Stay tuned.

Again, here on Viewpoint, Christian Briggs joining us talking about, well, in many respects a very explosive subject when we're talking about the escape, how a robot uprising seems to have begun already with regard to AI. We see how that's been kept under wraps, so as not to get the information out, but it finally did come out.

Things that occurred two or three months earlier and now there is an uprising around the world as to, "Okay, what do we do about this? How do we respond?" It all goes back to the Australian government where this escape, the OpenAI agent, hacked the Australian government website and then we find they did the same thing with regard to our Medicare. That was hidden from us and it just came out.

In fact, it was the Prime Minister of Australia that revealed it at the UN General Assembly in our own country, New York. Go figure, friends. So, that's where we are today and our special guest, Christian Briggs, who is the CEO of Hard Asset Management, joining us. So the question then would be, Christian, why would you spend your time as you have done so freely over the past six months or so to talk with us about these kinds of things when it's seriously impacting your own business?

Christian Briggs: Well, maybe it's the right thing to do once in a while. Why do we do missionary work? Why do we do voluntary... There you go. Not everything is for commercial viability, right?

Chuck Crismier: Well, that's true. Although that seems to be the driving factor for most people these days. In a selfie world.

Christian Briggs: It does. AI itself, you've got three parts to the new world order. AI was never about increasing the knowledge, the footprint of knowledge among the average person. It was really to increase dependency. If you think about how our IQs are going down since 1980, the newer generation does not have the ability to do long-form mathematics. They don't understand algebra, trigonometry, calculus. They don't need to. It's at their fingertip within another system.

Look at GPS. I used to remember riding my bike as a kid or having to get out MapQuest or maps or just use my actual memory for going somewhere. And the third thing is money. Like, they don't even understand the value of money. They don't have to. They have calculators and they have digital and they don't really see the money so they don't realize the value of it.

The younger generation feels entitled, like there's this all-consuming understanding that you're owed something. They're being told this and it's not their fault because they're impressionable. When you've got the Bernie Sanders and the AOC, and you've got a host of socialists. Look at Bondoni, the guy that wins New York mayor, saying we're going to have government-run grocery stores where prices will be 30% below cost.

Then you got free healthcare, free childcare, free housing, free car allowance. I'm thinking to myself, man, that does sound pretty good if I was 25 years old making $18 an hour and this guy tells me I can have free housing, free car, free Medicare, free childcare. Sign me up, coach, I'm in! How can you not?

Chuck Crismier: Well, you know, Christian, it's interesting because this very morning my wife told me about a conversation with a young lady who told her, "We can't afford to work. We get more money not working than we do working." Now, don't let me go into the details of that, but that reveals the ultimate entitlement mentality. When you're coming into the early 20s, it's a dangerous world that we're in.

What you're actually saying is the net effect of it, even though it seems to promise so many benefits on the short end, is it's taking away from us control on the long end and ultimately you give it all up.

Christian Briggs: You do. When government becomes your provider, there has to be a relationship of submission. Government, you're not going to be powerful as you accept government help or government entitlement. It doesn't create a power, it creates a dependency. So dependency is submission.

I just saw this yesterday. If you're an illegal alien in California, you can now go to the Social Security Administration, healthcare provider, welfare provider, food stamps provider, and it shows that they don't ask you for a Social Security number. You can tell them you're illegal, you have no job, you don't intend to get a job, and the benefits that you could theoretically get, I think at the top end if you've got a family of three or four, but not married, it came to about equivalent benefits about $75,000 to $100,000 a year.

Chuck Crismier: In California.

Christian Briggs: Yeah, because you've got to put a value on it. It's not just straight cash, it's also a value because you're not paying taxes on the net amount. You're not paying anything on it, you're just getting it. It's a tax-free lifestyle that pays pretty well. If you stack up with three or four of your pals and they got kids, you're not living on the street and you're doing it on the backs of people that make minimum wage who can't even afford the same kind of lifestyle.

Chuck Crismier: But going back to this, the bigger issue is not the illegal. The bigger issue is that we are all in the process of forfeiting control.

Christian Briggs: Correct. The illegal is the first step and it shows you what it will be like. We're going to become those people if we're not careful. Get out there and vote. Vote these people out. Vote the people out that don't have the same ideology as we do, that don't have the same gumption. Remember when we were kids, "That guy's got gumption, that guy's a warrior, that guy's a doer."

Chuck Crismier: Gumption, that's right. You've got to have gumption in your gumption to help you function. That's for sure.

Christian Briggs: Gumption was everything that we always said. We got to find tough warriors again that are running for office that are going to hold the line, I'm talking about the local community. Look at the school boards. At the end of the day, what we've got here is a European Union who now has moved to the last step of the final control. It is. Once they control you through digital ID. Have you been to the airport lately, Chuck?

Chuck Crismier: Yeah.

Christian Briggs: You don't even need a driver's license much longer. You need it for some reference points, but not much. I know this for a fact. I had a friend of mine call me the other day who got back from Italy. When he went through the Italian customs as a US citizen, he called me and goes, "Well, I don't need my passport anymore." I said, "What are you talking about?"

He goes, "Well, I really didn't need it to leave the country other than the airline asked for it, but they really didn't look at it but for half a second. They looked at my digital ID, my biometrics." I said, "Yeah?" And he said, "I didn't even get asked for my passport when I left Italy." I said, "Did they need your passport when you came in the US?" He goes, "No, I'm on that Global Entry digital ID thing. I really don't need to bring it anymore other than just for secondary verification." I said, "Well, that's scary."

Chuck Crismier: Isn't that interesting. Fascinating. Well, going back to our original conversation with Peter Thiel talking about his conversation with the Pope calling for one-world government and then the same Peter Thiel saying, "I think we already have the Antichrist likely among us," and also talking about the Antichrist system.

I'm thinking maybe our listeners need to seriously consider getting a copy of my book, *Antichrist: How to Identify the Coming Imposter*. It's a $20-some book on our website, saveus.org. Give us a call at 1-800-SAVE-USA or write to us at Save America Ministries, P.O. Box 70879, Richmond, Virginia 23255, writing a check add $6 for postage and handling. That's *Antichrist: How to Identify the Coming Imposter*. Now, I want to—you have a podcast. Tell us about that.

Christian Briggs: I've got *On the Record with Christian Briggs* on YouTube, Spotify, Apple. Then on Wednesdays at 1:00 Eastern on America Out Loud, I have a syndicated show. On X, you can follow me @BMC_HAM. Of course, our website is BMCHAM.com. You're welcome to call us and we'll give you quotes on precious metals and select rare coins.

We're having one of our best years ever because of the concern. This CBDC thing is no joke, Chuck. When this thing is two years ahead of schedule and really, I was talking to a couple members of the House yesterday, they were perplexed by the fact of the speed of which they're launching it. It isn't in the best interest of the United States that they did this so soon. They're trying to silo us off, trying to become the new reserve currency, and they're in bed with China on this whole deal. This is not a good deal.

Chuck Crismier: All right. Well, what we're talking about here in general is not a good deal. And by the way, just so you know, I have you on the record here today. I have just taken you on the record. What you've had to say and what we've had to say is going to go all over the world on our website, saveus.org.

So friends, if you have somebody that's not able to listen to the program today but you want to refer them to this, you might want to have them connect in later this evening. It'll be up there at saveus.org today's date, dealing with this OpenAI and robotic uprising that has begun. The price of gold very quickly, the price of gold has gone between about 4,300 to 4,500 dollars in the last few weeks. Silver is somewhere echoing between $63 and $66. It seems like things have pretty stabilized there. What's the future?

Christian Briggs: I would say this: do not be surprised to see an acceleration in hard assets because as we enter over the next—and we're already going that direction—we already have a digital dollar that is now starting to be put forth with regulations by the SEC, the CFTC. I would say by the next 12 to 18 months, as Europe transitions to centralization, we'll transition to centralization by '28.

By '30, the thing is "you will own nothing and be happy," 100%. No question. That's where precious metals are coming into play as a new way of which to maintain and preserve your wealth as well as grow it. But more importantly, it's the only thing that they can't take. This week, a wristwatch brought $31 million. Why?

Chuck Crismier: Rarity.

Christian Briggs: Rarity, Chuck. Pride and rarity. There you go. Hey, thanks so much, Christian, for joining us here on the program today. Again, he's the CEO of Hard Asset Management. And if you want to get a hold of him, you can go to his website, give it to us again very simply.

Christian Briggs: The website: BMCHAM.com.

Chuck Crismier: BMCHAM.com. Okay. All right. Thanks for joining us, friends. Become a partner, send your gifts by faith to Save America Ministries. Do it today, don't delay. Hey, time is short. People get ready. Things are moving much more rapidly than you even thought, than you even can imagine. And that's why we have this program right here.