Dr. David Jenkins, a clinical director with over 30 years of experience, and Dr. Brian Kelley, an award-winning professor and researcher, understand the devastating effects of substance abuse on individuals and their families. In this conversation with Dr. Zach Clinton, they discuss their workbook, Hope and Healing for Substance Use and Addiction, which addresses the critical need for therapists and clients to confront the failure and shame that often accompany addiction. If you or someone you know is struggling with substance use, listen and be encouraged. Drs. Jenkins and Kelley remind listeners of the strength found in community, the hope of sustained recovery through grace and healing, and the reassurance that no one has to face it alone.