Gerry shares about a pleasant surprise in a visit to Dr. John Whitmore’s office (teaches geology and paleontology at Cedarville University) where he discovers Dr. Steve Austin is in John’s office. Dr. Steve is the author of Mt. St. Helen’s, a DVD that shows in great detail the sequence of catastrophic occurrences and how they debunk “old earth” geology. The two talk of how Dr. Steve, who used to be an “old earth” geologist, but now because of this volcanic eruption is a “young earth” geologist.